200NL - top set from the BB
 

Villain here is a 11/7/2 regular. He plays pretty straightforward from what I've seen. I sometimes raise preflop, but with this many people, I figured giving them reverse implied odds with lower PP was better. The part I'm not sure about is the river... is this a call or push?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $160.15
<u>Hero (BB): $196.15</u>
UTG: $93.25
UTG+1: $226.25
MP1: $170.75
MP2: $259.00
MP3: $341.20
<u>CO: $266.90</u>
BTN: $164.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks

Flop: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls $6.00, SB folds

Turn: ($20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, CO calls $15.00

River: ($50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $41.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $85.00</font>, Hero ???

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

call

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

call, and expect to see QT or better

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

Call the river.

You have too much in the pot to fold.

And it is quite possible that villain turned or rivered a straight.

Call and expect anything from J9 (straight on turn), 67 (double gutter that made it on the river), QTs, 85s, T8s, or even a slow-played lower set.

If I had to guess, I'd say 67, but I'd still call given the pot odds. I would not raise simply because his line seems to indicate a straight a fairly good percentage of the time and I don't want to put a lot more in over his show of great strength with that small river raise.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

I think his range is pretty much QQ, 88, 44, QT, J9, T8 and 67. However, he probably raises 88/44 sooner and QQ would probably be raised preflop. So I think you're looking at QT, J9, or 67. Assuming only suited combos you're an 8-1 dog and the pot is laying you 4-1 so I vote fold. If you give him that full range you're about even money so then it would be a call.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

raise preflop, it so isn't close.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

J9 beats you, QQ beats you. So why just call? I raise here.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

agreed.

villian is 11/7 and he limps from CO? I can never put him on J9 or QQ.

Looks like he has 44 or 88, I push.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

Not raising preflop is gross.

If villain is decent and plays straightforward then he raises 44/88 on the flop or turn. I think youre gonna see the straight a fair amount (67 more often if he is, in fact, a straightforward player) but some 2pairs and sets as well. That being said, I think this is a call, rather than a push.

Re: 200NL - top set from the BB
 

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Not raising preflop is gross.

If villain is decent and plays straightforward then he raises 44/88 on the flop or turn. I think youre gonna see the straight a fair amount (67 more often if he is, in fact, a straightforward player) but some 2pairs and sets as well. That being said, I think this is a call, rather than a push.

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Playing a middle pair OOP is grosser.