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ZJ123 10-29-2007 09:22 PM

Early FTP 1k hand
 
Villain i have never heard of, but hes been pretty active in LP. Thoughts on Preflop? Flop and Turn...

Full Tilt Poker Game #4008283912: $1K Monday (29697351), Table 27 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:16:43 ET - 2007/10/29
Seat 1: onlinewizard (3,3.35)
Seat 2: kwob20 (2,940), is sitting out
Seat 3: charder30 (3,480)
Seat 4: RivRunsDeep (2,830)
Seat 5: FLIMSIN (2,935)
Seat 6: HeyImDro (2,925)
Seat 7: busto_soon (2,090)
Seat 8: amak316 (3,045)
Seat 9: pauly007 (3,420)
charder30 posts the small blind of 15
RivRunsDeep posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to charder30 [Qh Ah]
FLIMSIN folds
kwob20 has returned
HeyImDro folds
busto_soon folds
amak316 folds
pauly007 folds
onlinewizard raises to 90
kwob20 folds
charder30 has 15 seconds left to act
charder30 raises to 285
RivRunsDeep folds
onlinewizard calls 195
*** FLOP *** [9d Ac 5s]
charder30 checks
onlinewizard has 15 seconds left to act
onlinewizard checks
*** TURN *** [9d Ac 5s] [4s]
charder30 bets 425
onlinewizard raises to 850
charder30........?

If a call, river plan?

zizazziza 10-29-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
i call. and i c/c river if no spade. This is worse A too often or something trying to figure out if you have the A.

salesbeast 10-29-2007 10:27 PM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
What are u afraid he has no d of here is the question? I wouldn't say a set unless he has no clue how to play. I would raise it as calling wouldn't offer fold option.

curtains 10-30-2007 01:00 AM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
Screw that monkey make an approx. pot sized bet on flop and be willing to get all chips in. Otherwise weird stuff might happen and you get scared into folding some hand that you intended to make into a bluffcatcher.

I would never check this flop unless I knew my opponent well and it had something to do with their tendencies. Against default opponent I'd bet 100% of the time.

ZJ123 10-30-2007 01:21 AM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
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Screw that monkey make an approx. pot sized bet on flop and be willing to get all chips in. Otherwise weird stuff might happen and you get scared into folding some hand that you intended to make into a bluffcatcher.

I would never check this flop unless I knew my opponent well and it had something to do with their tendencies. Against default opponent I'd bet 100% of the time.

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for the most part what hands are we getting value out of ? i think by checking flop were more likely to get two streets of value.

curtains 10-30-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
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Screw that monkey make an approx. pot sized bet on flop and be willing to get all chips in. Otherwise weird stuff might happen and you get scared into folding some hand that you intended to make into a bluffcatcher.

I would never check this flop unless I knew my opponent well and it had something to do with their tendencies. Against default opponent I'd bet 100% of the time.

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for the most part what hands are we getting value out of ? i think by checking flop were more likely to get two streets of value.

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AJ, AT?

People are dumb you think the random dude calls preflop with his AJ to fold when flop comes A9x because you keep betting?

aaaaaaaa 10-30-2007 02:01 AM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
i call and hope he makes real small retardo bet river which will happen a good % so i can call all rivers if he doesnt bet small ill fold to really big bets on all UI rivers prolly this is weird but when people do this min-raise then like pot the river i give them a lot of credit because it seems they have a hand here a lot in my experience .

Jazzy3113 10-30-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
Your in this mess cause u checked the flop. Call turn and call no spade river.

fsoyars 10-30-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
I pretty much always bet this flop but I don't think checking is horrible given this dry board.

As played calling the turn kind of sucks bc it leaves you with only a PSB on the river. I would shove the turn looking to stack worse aces and mid pairs that think "you don't have an ace."

Todd Terry 10-30-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Early FTP 1k hand
 
I think the combo of check behind flop, min raise turn means your hand is in trouble here.


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