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ledders07 10-24-2007 06:57 PM

10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
no real read on villain but she has min c-betted a flop then potted a turn a couple hands earlier.
firstly, what does she have when she overbets like this?

i just called on flop to exercise some pot control and re-evaluate on turn?

thoughts??? is this an obvious shove??

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.19
UTG+1: $10
MP1: $10.30
HERO: $14.57
MP3: $6.22
CO: $4.45
Button: $1.70
SB: $6.72
BB: $12

Pre-flop: (9 players) HERO is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 folds, HERO calls, 4 folds, 4 folds, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.45, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $0.3</font>, HERO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.05, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $1.7</font>, HERO...

Chargers In 07 10-24-2007 07:03 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
This is an obvious fold.

ElectricWaffles 10-24-2007 07:04 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
She hasn't CBetted, that's a 'donk-bet'. Could mean a number of things, but in a 4way pot i'd assume (as a default) that it was an ace of some sort.

I dont see why you would raise here, I'd take the implied odds and draw I think. I'm not sure how great your implied odds are though? Probably less than I think.

You've got around 15 outs on the river so ~30% chance to hit. The thing is the board has paired so she *could* have made a FH, or will make one on the river, so you need to keep that in mind.

A push here isn't good I dont think, because if she's got an ace (which I think she has judging by her bet size) you've got very very little fold equity. However that might be a good thing because she'll be less likely to fold the river if you hit one of your outs.

Will she stack off if you hit your draw? Does this give you the correct implied odds to call?

Is drawing to an OESD/FD okay, considering the board has paired?

ledders07 10-24-2007 07:09 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is an obvious fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

may i ask why please?

Chargers In 07 10-24-2007 07:15 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
ok. A push is just outright terrible. The reason being that you don't have any fold equity if you push to an overbet. He probably has the Ace and isn't folding.

Calling is bad because he probably has the Ace. So you could be drawing dead already and calling this and hitting will be the worst thing that will happen.

Folding, nothing will happen. Coincedently has the least cons of the three options.

Effen 10-24-2007 07:15 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
Paired board + you're drawing + overbet not giving you odds to draw.

ledders07 10-24-2007 07:17 PM

Re: 10NL OESD picks up flush draw on turn, what\'s my play?
 
[censored] , i folded and thought i had made the wrong decision

thanks all


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