big overpairs
 

going through my handhistories, this is how i usually play my big overpairs to the flop. i think i am way to aggressive here...

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $91.25
UTG+1: $132.25
UTG+2: $103.50
MP1: $98.50
MP2: $21.75
MP3: $20.50
CO: $123
Button: $18
Hero: $165
BB: $46.75

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, Button folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises to $30</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($73, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $76</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 calls all-in $68.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $7.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $210


any comments, suggestions or differents lines i can take?

Re: big overpairs
 

i would pop this up to $7 pf.

the flop bet is fine. when you get raised it'd really really help to have some reads/stats on villian.

Re: big overpairs
 

The problem with flops like this is that people often limp/call with pairs that are overpairs here and go crazy with them. They can also do this with sets, overcard flush draws, all sorts of fun stuff. I don't think you can do much else here.

Re: big overpairs
 

you need to 3-bet or fold the flop (precisely because of what happened on the turn).

Re: big overpairs
 

If you think you are way ahead on the flop (and I think you did since you donk all-in on the turn, correct me if I am wrong), you should reraise the flop and get it all in. The board is draw heavy, and a good player might raise this with a draw for a free card/pick off a c-bet. If he has AA/KK/Set you are busted anyway, and at least this way he has to pay for his draw if he has one.

Your Thoughts?

Re: big overpairs
 

yeah, after looking into a couple more hands i think i need to 3bet way more in these situations.

in this hand is doesn't really matters because any re-raise commits me to the pot, but i found some where i could have find a fold of my lonely overpair in case villian pushs.

i looked up villian. he was 24/15/3 @ ~240 hands.

Re: big overpairs
 

very little you beat calls the turn bet....but lots of stuff that has you crushed does. Your line is terrifying to 88-JJ and if he's got a set he knows you don't have a 3.

I'd probably come over the top on the flop while people with 88-JJ still like their hands (and flush draws too). As played I think you are smoked. Check/calling or check/raising all in if he didn't push the turn would probably get hands that you beat to bet at least.