Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling?
 

This kind of post "belongs" in legislation, but to be completely honest every time i read something in there it disolves into heresay and name calling and I'm left more confused than when i went in. I want the opinions of those i know and respect, so i've come to all of you.

As you may or may not have heard, neteller has agreed agreed to cooporate in the DOJ investigation and 55 million in funds has been frozen. Transfers to US accounts have been frozen.

Since netellers closing, no new method of providing safe, reliable and cheap transfers as entered the market and calmed fears.

Online guaranteed prize pools on at least two sites (UB and bodog) still available to US players have been getting smaller (bodog 30k drops to 25k, numerous on UB.)

As numerous players have noted, tournament fields seem to be getting stronger, with more 2+2ers/p5'ers at tables of interesting buy in.

In your opinion, and if you can PLEASE back it up with reasoning, is "the sky falling"? Are online tournaments becoming less and less profitable? If so will that trend continue?

Thanks guys, Bond

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

Link from updates.neteller.com

http://www.neteller-group.com/press/en/124.htm

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

The sky is not falling. It will merely be a lot lower from now on.

Take that as you will.

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

[ QUOTE ]
The sky is not falling. It will merely be a lot lower from now on.

Take that as you will.

[/ QUOTE ]

With a gun to my head with 1 bullet in it.

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

stars used to be 500K guaranteed (and 300K before that)...that's not happening.

it's not gonna be 2M guaranteed anytime soon now, either, but who cares.

also, learn cash.

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

Stop the violence!

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

I just went to my bank to deposit a 9k check from Pokerstars. It took about 20 minutes for them to figure out what the hell kind of check it was and attempt to verify funds. They still ended up putting a 5 day hold on the check. I also have 5k stuck on Neteller that I may never see.

Not a big deal about the hold on the check, but I don't see a lot of casual player's sticking around with all the aggrivation involved with getting money on and off the sites.

I don't think a good player will become -ev long term since there are still foreign fish playing, but I do think historical ROI's will be harder to realize from now on.


~Body Man

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

well with 180s they have gottin redic harder with the dropoff, which is surprising because the same 15-20 people are reg for all of them hasn't changed but those who 2-3 table the taggy players who are breakeven barely are filling up the tourneys thus reducing the awful players who are wayyy -ev.

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

Do people really think tourneys are getting tougher? The only game I've seen get noticably tougher was stars cash. FT cash, UB cash, Stars MTTs, and FT MTTs seem to be exactly the same, although my sample is tiny.

Re: Gentleman, give it to me straight, do you think the sky is falling
 

[ QUOTE ]
well with 180s they have gottin redic harder with the dropoff, which is surprising because the same 15-20 people are reg for all of them hasn't changed but those who 2-3 table the taggy players who are breakeven barely are filling up the tourneys thus reducing the awful players who are wayyy -ev.

[/ QUOTE ]

Whoa... that's scary.