16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

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BB (t2294)
UTG (t6561)
Hero (t2685)
SB (t1960)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t1100) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ?

Cbet here? If so, how much?

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

I'd just push preflop effective stacks are only 11.5 bb.

But now this absolutely sucks for a spot especially on the bubble, I'd probably check - or push depending on my read or the bb.

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

antes or not ?
If there are antes, this is a push preflop. This might or might not be a push without ante.

Once you're there, I'd c-bet 600 ish.

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

The times I think this isn't a push preflop (which it has to be in most cases), I think I'd lay it down rather than bet 500.

Bad?

Generally, I'd check behind here. Kinda give up.
But I can see shoving vs some.

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

No antes.

Im using 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ for the villains which is plausible based on their playing styles.

A push here is very slightly +EV and not worth it at this buyin in my opinion.

So if you aren't going to push preflop, should you fold preflop, bet/fold flop or bet/push flop verse villains that call with 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ ?

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

Are you saying they'd call push and call 500 with the same hands?
And never resteal?

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

My guess is that BB would call a push a little lighter and that both would resteal with say 22+, A8+.

Re: 16s: Cbet even though it puts me below 10bbs?
 

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The times I think this isn't a push preflop (which it has to be in most cases), I think I'd lay it down rather than bet 500.

Bad?

Generally, I'd check behind here. Kinda give up.
But I can see shoving vs some.

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I like a fold better than 500, and with his calling ranges - I might fold and hope they collide.