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I had 27K frozen on FTP for six weeks. It was a very stressfull time for me. I was cleared and had my account re-opened and funds returned.

So as everyone else is saying, if you did nothing wrong you'll get it back.

However the communication was poor. FTP could never tell me ANY details of the investigation. Thats the most frustrating part

Best of luck

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WOW!!! Thanks so much for posting. I don't know how you lasted for 6 weeks. I don't think I can do it. I'm already a mess over this as it is. Were they in contact with you or did they just contact you when they unfroze your account? Did they assure you that they would never freeze your account again? Are you worried that they will do it again? I have never had a problem with FTP in the past and felt assured that by this time they would have resolved this situation but I don't know if I want to take a chance and play there again. Going through this has been extremely stressful.

Are you still playing there and do you feel safe?

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Sillysal I am really sorry to hear about your situation. I know I would not be able to sleep at night either. I really hope you get all of your money back soon. This type of stuff really scares me. Please keep us updated, thanks.

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sillysal - nlnut's case was kind of a famous one that involved him and his friends playing in the same room in a frightingly similar style.
There were many even on here who were convinced he and his friends were using bots at least part of the time and I think were actually NOT happy to hear that he got his money back.

Anyway, only he knows exactly what he did or didn't do but in spite of an earlier post which he eventually deleted he did have some ideas as to what FT was investigating regardless of the communication or lack thereof with him.

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It might be because you use 2 accounts...
grego777 and pokergirl z


-Crazy Mike

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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I think this is a confirmation that the account was frozen due to Crazy Mike telling support.

Mike, I believe that some of your accusations are likely accurate but I really don't follow your posts that much. I too would be curious how you know that this player is on 2 accounts.

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Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

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I'm not sure what these "leppercons" are you speak of but they sound scary!

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It might be because you use 2 accounts...
grego777 and pokergirl z


-Crazy Mike


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Did you use the same method of confirmation here as you did when you listed 2+2er "Dean" as a bot on your site (when you didn't know it was him)?

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Were they in contact with you or did they just contact you when they unfroze your account?

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They only contacted me to send in ID. I had to initiate every other communication.
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Did they assure you that they would never freeze your account again?



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No, they said if new evidence came to light they would freeze it again.

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Are you worried that they will do it again?



[/ QUOTE ] no .... however, I keep minimum in there too play with just in case.

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Going through this has been extremely stressful.


[/ QUOTE ] I know how you feel. It's not fair the way they don't tell you [censored].

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Are you still playing there and do you feel safe?



[/ QUOTE ] I am still playing there. Not as safe as before all of this but safe enough to just keep a few K on there. no way 27k will ever be in there again.

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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There are many players who use multiple accounts to play, either through family or friends. What point are you trying to make her accusing OP of having multiple accounts?

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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Was there an answer to either question in that post?

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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Was there an answer to either question in that post?

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WitchHunterMike is too busy saving the poker world to provide evidence to the lowly denizens of 2+2. He will occasionally drop by to make some accusations though.

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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Was there an answer to either question in that post?

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WitchHunterMike is too busy saving the poker world to provide evidence to the lowly denizens of 2+2. He will occasionally drop by to make some accusations though.

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.

-Crazy Mike

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.


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So do you have evidence? Keep dodging the question?

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Mike, for all I know you are correct. I just think it is a douche move making an accusation without providing any proof. You don't seem to be an ethical person though so I doubt this bothers you too much.

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I just think it is a douche move

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Based entirely on his conduct on 2p2, this seems incredibly standard that CM would be making the doucheyiest move in a given spot.

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.

-Crazy Mike

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Funny, that didn't sound like an answer either.

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.

-Crazy Mike

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Funny, that didn't sound like an answer either.

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Whatever investigation that is going on with her was not initiated by me nor reported by me. Does that answer your question? I only care about bots not people having mulitple accounts. If she is or has used a bot in the past or present then I care. By the way San Diego is burning!

-Crazy Mike

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why do you care so much? is that not the job of the site staff? do they realy need you? dont they find bots on thier own? dont you have anything better to do?

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.

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Funny, that didn't sound like an answer either.

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Whatever investigation that is going on with her was not initiated by me nor reported by me. Does that answer your question? I only care about bots not people having mulitple accounts. If she is or has used a bot in the past or present then I care. By the way San Diego is burning!

-Crazy Mike

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They weren't my questions, but yes you finally did answer one of them. Not sure why you brought up the multiple accounts if you don't care. Unless of course that was meant as a helpful suggestion to OP as to why her account is frozen. Unfortunately for you, your past zeal in trying to get accounts closed down means your posts are immediately viewed with a great deal of skepticism.

The fires in California suck. We'd gladly ship some of our regular fall/winter/spring rain down there if we could.

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why do you care so much? is that not the job of the site staff? do they realy need you? dont they find bots on thier own? dont you have anything better to do?

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Thats a rediculously easy pitch to hit out of the stadium.

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Any bots out there have very remedial AIs. I wouldn't worry about them.

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tell me again why ppl play anywhere else but stars.

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Any bots out there have very remedial AIs. I wouldn't worry about them.

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Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe it was proven that there were mid-high stakes LHE HU bots that were winners?

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Thats me always on a witch hunt.

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Funny, that didn't sound like an answer either.

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Whatever investigation that is going on with her was not initiated by me nor reported by me. Does that answer your question? I only care about bots not people having mulitple accounts. If she is or has used a bot in the past or present then I care. By the way San Diego is burning!

-Crazy Mike

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I knew it wouldn't be long before you popped up your slimey head. It's not enough that your a moronic idiot who can't get laid becuase your spend all day spewing your nonsense to the poor 2+2 coummunity. I spurned you long ago and ever since, I've been accussed by you of evertyhing from being a bot, being "unethical",being a man , having 2 accounts with bots in them, yeah SAn Diegos on fire and I have no doubt you started em. How do you like that for accusations.

How does it feel to be on the other side of stupid accusations based on nothing but on what comes into your twisted little mind. This will be the last time I ever respond to you . The best way to deal with silliness such as your is to just ignore it.

I will say , that FTP made it clear to me that Gatorade ,The complainer, Crazy Mike (all are one and same) has nothing to do with this investigation.

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Just to let you all know.. If I had a nickle for everytime Gatorade accussed me of something,, I'd be so rich, I'd never have to play another hand of poker in my life!!!!

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It might be because you use 2 accounts...
grego777 and pokergirl z


-Crazy Mike

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Just deny that this is not true, makes me feel better when you lie to me more.

Thanks,
-Crazy Mike

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Crazy Mike... a descendant of Joseph McCarthy?

Discuss.

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It might be because you use 2 accounts...
grego777 and pokergirl z


-Crazy Mike

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Just deny that this is not true, makes me feel better when you lie to me more.

Thanks,
-Crazy Mike

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You would think a denial of multiaccounting would have been in the response. My guess is that a) sillysal did something that broke the t&c of Full Tilt, but that it is not worth taking the full 47k or b) a player who did a chargeback lost a bunch of money to her. I'm speculating here, obviously, but I like to believe that these account lockings are not unsubstantiated in the majority of cases.

The issue, of course, is the length of time needed to conduct an investigation. I doubt this concerns a giant web of accounts that takes weeks to investigate. If there are other accounts involved that are sandbagging, this is the only acceptable reason for the length of time for the investigation.

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I like Mike [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Hey Gatorade,

Did you report the OP?

Also, it seems the OP has, and does, play under one or two names across all the sites. So im curious if this is another baseless acusation that you constantly make or do you have anything to back it up?

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No your right, Just another one of my absolutly ridiculous accusations that are never true. Bots dont exist and dean is not scum. Also leppercons and Santa both are real as I have seen them on TV and at the mall.

-Crazy Mike

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Right, and you've never made allegations that turned out to be completely false.

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It might be because you use 2 accounts...
grego777 and pokergirl z


-Crazy Mike

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Just deny that this is not true, makes me feel better when you lie to me more.

Thanks,
-Crazy Mike

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You would think a denial of multiaccounting would have been in the response. My guess is that a) sillysal did something that broke the t&c of Full Tilt, but that it is not worth taking the full 47k or b) a player who did a chargeback lost a bunch of money to her. I'm speculating here, obviously, but I like to believe that these account lockings are not unsubstantiated in the majority of cases.

The issue, of course, is the length of time needed to conduct an investigation. I doubt this concerns a giant web of accounts that takes weeks to investigate. If there are other accounts involved that are sandbagging, this is the only acceptable reason for the length of time for the investigation.

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To answer your question. No, I do not have 2 accounts .. now does that cover all the denials. Just to let you know I've been attacked by Gatorade for many many years. I rebuffed his romantic advaces and this turned the poor liitle boy into the raving lunatic he is today. That anyone here actually still listens to him is beyond me. For the most part I think people find him as annoying as I do. Clearly from the posts , he's not respected. Enough about him. Back to the matter on hand.

Whatever the case may be, it is taking them far too long to resovle this issue. If I had 2 accounts that would not warrant the freezing of 47 grand. check out the rules on the site. if that were the case this would have been resolved LONG AGO. If I were a bot, They certianly would have shut me down by now and not frozen but taken my money. I have not been chip dumping for if that were the case that too would have been resolved far quicker than this. That FTP has not given me a logical explanation as to why they are coducting this investigation, nor a reasonable time frame in which it is to be conducted is at the crux of the original post.

I fully expect this to be resolved in my favor. The problem is just how much longer are they going to hold my money and will I ever get an explanation and more importantly. Is this going to happen to me again?

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Like being put in jail without a charge. Unacceptable.

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lol gatorade

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Crazy Mike your name suits you well, you are a Crazy douchebag.

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Any bots out there have very remedial AIs. I wouldn't worry about them.

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Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe it was proven that there were mid-high stakes LHE HU bots that were winners?

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yes, beatme1 was beating 100/200 + 200/400 on ftp before he got busted.

pokergirl z is a winning high stakes HU LHE player but she's almost definitely not a bot.

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Just deny that this is not true, makes me feel better when you lie to me more.

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In Gatorspeak, I think everyone in this thread is not trying to tell you that you are not an idiot.

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i had decided the last time i saw one of these threads, never to play on full tilt again. This one confirms that decision.

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i had decided the last time i saw one of these threads, never to play on full tilt again. This one confirms that decision.

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Do you prefer the situation at ft, or places like ub and ap where bots can run freely?