200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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UTG+2: $109
MP1: $266.05
MP2: $226.40
CO: $408.85
BTN: $197
SB: $274.45
BB: $624.20
UTG: $200
Hero (UTG+1): $264

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero folds

Am I totally nuts? Does anybody else fold AK in this situation? I know a lot of guys probably would 3bet. But any thinking player would know my 3betting range is precisely QQ+ and AK. How can 3betting possibly be good when my range is so narrow and my opponents are aware of that? Calling isn't a good option either, so I routinely fold AK here. Should I be admitted to the insane asylum?

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

how is your 3betting range QQ+ and AK if you routinely fold AK facing a preflop raise?

don't you realize how impossible it is to answer your question without stats on UTG?

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

You are not posting your question in a coherent fashion, if that's what you mean.

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

maybe RR some hands besides QQ+ AK

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

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how is your 3betting range QQ+ and AK if you routinely fold AK facing a preflop raise?

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You're right, it's just QQ, KK, and AA.
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don't you realize how impossible it is to answer your question without stats on UTG?

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I was thinking more about the 7 players left to act behind me. I have a nitty image. For the sake of argument let's say I 3bet the UTG with AK. Even though AK beats UTG's range won't it only get action from the 7 remaining players when it's crushed by AA and KK? That's why AK is not in my UTG+1 3bet range and I just fold.
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maybe RR some hands besides QQ+ AK

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Do you honestly have a wider 3betting range than this if UTG has a standard range of AA-JJ, AK, and there are still 7 players left to act? When UTG is a tight player doesn't my range have to be this narrow?

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

What is your read on UTG?

This is horrible btw.

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I was thinking more about the 7 players left to act behind me. I have a nitty image. For the sake of argument let's say I 3bet the UTG with AK. Even though AK beats UTG's range won't it only get action from the 7 remaining players when it's crushed by AA and KK? That's why AK is not in my UTG+1 3bet range and I just fold.

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It seems like you're worried more than you should be about AA and KK behind you.

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

Most UTG raisers ranges at NL200 except for the Ultra nitty, have ranges wider then AA-QQ, AK. A lot of TAGs at these levels raise any pair UTG, hands like KQs, AQo, etc.

Now do you see why you need to 3bet a wider range yourself?

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Now do you see why you need to 3bet a wider range yourself?

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Yes, I definitely need to 3bet a wider range if UTG is raising any pair. I think I'm just overly paranoid about 3betting from UTG+1 when there are so many players left to act. Thank you all very much for the replies.

Re: 200 nl: Am I crazy?
 

3bet and if someone comes over you easy fold