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hitch1978 11-05-2007 07:01 PM

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I really don't think either action is wrong.

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Sure, I am not tortured by it or anything.

I just thought it was interesting as it's like a hyperthetical situation that might be posted on these boards, only it actually happened.

drzen 11-05-2007 07:12 PM

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Couldn't you just be a "godfather" without all the religious stuff?

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The whole ceremony is basically the new godparents swearing to help the parents raise the child in the ways of the bible. I don't know how unerversal it is, but it was a Church of England ceremony (I think) and the 'godfather' means exactly that, according to the words used in the ceremony.

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Then you have to say no. Sometimes you just have to disappoint your parents.

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The ceremony, of course, had completely different connotations for both my mother, and (I would guess) ~90% of people that have them. It is more like the fluffy meaning - welcome into this childs life in a slightly enhanced/recomfirmed role.

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Yes, but I think that you should take it seriously. Otherwise, what's the point?

drzen 11-05-2007 07:13 PM

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I really don't think either action is wrong.

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You don't think it's wrong to lie?

tame_deuces 11-05-2007 07:26 PM

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I really don't think either action is wrong.

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You don't think it's wrong to lie?

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Nah, I don't think it is especially wrong to lie.

But apart from that I have been in similar situations and done the ceremony and still not lied. Priests can usually tailor stuff a little if you explain the situation to them.

foal 11-05-2007 08:58 PM

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I agree with it. I've always found the religious aspect of public ceremonies unpleasant. For instance at my Grandma's funeral we sang songs with lyrics like "blessed are they and only they who in his [Christ's] truth confide". It wasn't insulting to my Grandma who was a Christian, but it certainly was to some of the mourners. I don't mind a religious aspect, it's just that kind of arrogance of assuming that everyone attending shares the same beliefs that bothers me.

Siegmund 11-05-2007 09:43 PM

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I commend you for thinking things through, and being able to clearly spell out for your mother what your problem with it was. I think you did the right thing (both refusing the ceremony, and being there for your brother.) Had you JUST said no without an explanation I'd be saying you owed somebody a reason.

I am hopeful that your mother was understanding of your position on it. Mothers usually have a fair idea what is in their children's minds.

I do find it interesting how many of y'all find christenings to be completely routine things. I didnt have one, nor have most of my friends who had children arranged to have them done. Obviously varies widely between denominations.

Sephus 11-05-2007 09:49 PM

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I do find it interesting how many of y'all find christenings to be completely routine things. I didnt have one, nor have most of my friends who had children arranged to have them done.

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they are becoming more rare now that people are aware of the danger of breaking a champagne bottle on a baby's face.

PairTheBoard 11-05-2007 11:39 PM

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I do find it interesting how many of y'all find christenings to be completely routine things. I didnt have one, nor have most of my friends who had children arranged to have them done.

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they are becoming more rare now that people are aware of the danger of breaking a champagne bottle on a baby's face.

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lol

good one

PairTheBoard

drzen 11-06-2007 12:19 AM

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I really don't think either action is wrong.

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You don't think it's wrong to lie?

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Nah, I don't think it is especially wrong to lie.

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Then you are in a bad moral place.

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But apart from that I have been in similar situations and done the ceremony and still not lied. Priests can usually tailor stuff a little if you explain the situation to them.

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"Hello, I'd like to be this child's religious supervisor, but I don't believe in all that religion [censored]."

Yeah, they love that.

Sephus 11-06-2007 12:21 AM

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Then you are in a bad moral place.

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do these pants make my butt look big?


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