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rwesty 09-25-2007 11:30 PM

100 NL - Fold or Call
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($38)
UTG ($119.45)
UTG+1 ($48.60)
MP1 ($97)
MP2 ($220.30)
CO ($384.35)
Hero ($194)
SB ($149.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $5, SB calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, MP2 calls $4.

Flop: ($26) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($26) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $15</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $43.60 (All-In), MP2 calls $35.

River: ($169.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $165.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

EWS87 09-25-2007 11:33 PM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
ugh this is brutal especially 194BB deep...his preflop action is throwing me off a little because it rules out AKss...if he had 66 why not shove turn...it could be JT but that wouldnt call on turn...QT would shove turn...i cant see what this...im stumped boys...waiting to hear some opinions myself

EWS87 09-25-2007 11:34 PM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
lol i gotta know what he has...pm me results plz

pattay 09-25-2007 11:53 PM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
call its more fun that way

chopsticks 09-26-2007 12:10 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
Hard to say without any reads on villain. His aggression factor and preflop raise % would be good to know or at least some specifications on his play.

He probably wouldn't call the turn with QJ and he probably would play QT differently from the beginning. 66 is definitely at the top of his range. Maybe he was slowplaying the flop and lead the turn with his 66's but he would be doing that with AsKs too (probably) but I don't include that into his range when he just limped in pf. How about Ks9s, would he limp in with that? 8s9s is also in his range and he would probably play the turn that way with double belly buster and a flush draw. Some donkish players would do this with AA or KK laughing their asses off at home because they lured all the fishes into a trap here but as there are no reads on villain it's hard to say.

I say it's 66/8s9s and you're behind more often than ahead. It takes $139 to win $307 so pot odds are good. Stacks are deep and if your bankroll management sucks or you just can't stand losing another 100bb+ with about a coinflip it's a fold but I would call it. If you can include QT or AA (or even better - both) in his range often enough calling here is +EV in the long run.

Vince. 09-26-2007 12:56 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
This is a sick spot, he very well could have a 89ss, K9ss, or a set of 6s. I would probably call because I hate folding sets but it would be a crying call and I would expect to probaly be beat.

rwesty 09-26-2007 01:36 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
Villain had 8d9d.

CalledDownLight 09-26-2007 01:57 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
man, this is so sick. I really think I find a fold here. I can't see what you would beat here at all. This is actually a sick spot with a set. Congrats OP, you posted the first threadworthy fold a set hand in a while.

Mr_Donktastic 09-26-2007 01:59 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
its a call.

AK makes no sense. a higher set makes no sense.

something like QJ is way more likely.

sorry you lost but i think the call is good.

CalledDownLight 09-26-2007 02:03 AM

Re: 100 NL - Fold or Call
 
[ QUOTE ]
its a call.

AK makes no sense. a higher set makes no sense.

something like QJ is way more likely.

sorry you lost but i think the call is good.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's doing this into a dry sidepot when the main pot is like a buyin and a half big. man I really don't know. If he bet overs on the turn trying to take it down he might be dumb enough to call the raise with AK and hope a K is good once in a while or something. Also, 89 is a double gutter and well disguised so he's got like 7 outs on average there and some implieds. 666 definitely makes sense too as does TTT imo. I really would feel sick and probably fold here in all honesty.


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