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Janabis 05-15-2007 04:55 PM

NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
My table image is a fairly tight aggressive 20/15 style. Villain here was something like 28/10 but I don't have a good read on him. I really didn't know what to do on the turn. I thought the villain probably had a pretty huge hand after he called oop on the flop and then checkraised the turn. I didn't want to push because I felt like he must have a monster hand to take this line and I didn't want to fold because it was a minraise and wouldn't quite pot commit me. Can I play this hand better?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $197
Hero: $200.90
CO: $183.70
Button: $329.60
SB: $525.60
BB: $347

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($22, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($67, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $80</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($227, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $100</font>, Hero?

BombayBadboy 05-15-2007 04:57 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
I'd make my decision on the turn.

What is his aggression factor..?

Casper05 05-15-2007 04:58 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
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I'd make my fold on the turn.

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orange 05-15-2007 04:59 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
well you didnt call that turn to fold that river did you?

Janabis 05-15-2007 05:02 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
His AF is only 1.14 over 74 hands. It feels really hard to fold AA on the turn there, but maybe that would have been for the best.

jojo77 05-15-2007 05:04 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
i'm thinking he hit his set of 4s on flop. Seems just about the right kind of hand to just call your raise pf.

DaCooler 05-15-2007 05:06 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
sorry man but your beat, donkeys call with middle pair ALL THE TIME in this situation

joeblack 05-15-2007 05:09 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
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sorry man but your beat, donkeys call with middle pair ALL THE TIME in this situation

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blink20 05-15-2007 05:09 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
his line looks exactly like QQ, 44, 77 or maybe a 4 7 suited depending how much he likes to gamble and take multiway pots deep stacked.

I say you also need to judge how smart and deceitful he is, and how smart he thinks you are and if any of that is even relevant after the number of hands you played with him.

I say this because it looks so obviously like a big hand maybe he is trying to pull a fast one on you, but i think to go with that read you need a lot of history and a lot more information.

I would say folding isn't bad here, although i do wonder how many times he's taking this line with an AQ or something a little bit worse and if that should factor into any decisions.

Hince 05-15-2007 05:15 PM

Re: NL200 - AA gets checkraised on the turn
 
The pot is 3 handed, and the board is pretty dry. I like c/cing this turn a good portion of the time to control the pot, get value on the river from a queen, and also getting some information from the check. For example, this is a much easier fold if button bets, and BB raises. If he checks behind, you probably crush button and open yourself to some bluffs by BB on the river.

If BB checks the river, you have a wicked easy value bet that will get called way more often than if your turn bet.


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