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mattiesmat 11-28-2007 01:28 PM

$16 - AK raise/push
 
What's your move here and why?
Raise push or open fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO (t918)
Button (t4179)
SB (t5130)
BB (t1540)
Hero (t1355)
MP (t378)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero ??

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 01:37 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
Shove, get called by worse hands.

mattiesmat 11-28-2007 01:40 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
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Shove, get called by worse hands.

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What if we had 1400?
In other wors, when do you start shoving?

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 01:45 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
1400 or lower is a good point. We can standard raise vs better /tighter opponents because we can entice reshoves from AQ,AJ who might not be calling if we shove. With 2 big stacks behind here, though, I'm def shoving.

DannyOcean_ 11-28-2007 03:31 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
I go from 1500 here. By 1500, shoving is still obv. +EV, but you can play the hand raising without it being super-awkward as well. So anythin less than 1500, i'm likely to shove, and around 1500 i raise it.

sence25 11-28-2007 03:33 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
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I go from 1500 here. By 1500, shoving is still obv. +EV, but you can play the hand raising without it being super-awkward as well. So anythin less than 1500, i'm likely to shove, and around 1500 i raise it.

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I like this and play it the same.

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 03:50 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
When we start shoving too much, we often fold out AJ & then sometimes AQ which sucks. Short handed, especially, standard raising invites worse hands to shove over our raise which is much better.

Finnisher 11-28-2007 04:02 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
Has anybody tried 4x'ing? Plz to share

sippin_criss 11-28-2007 04:05 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
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When we start shoving too much, we often fold out AJ & then sometimes AQ which sucks. Short handed, especially, standard raising invites worse hands to shove over our raise which is much better.

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Do you think that someone who reshoves with AJ would fold it to 14 BB shove?

Finnisher 11-28-2007 04:11 PM

Re: $16 - AK raise/push
 
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When we start shoving too much, we often fold out AJ & then sometimes AQ which sucks. Short handed, especially, standard raising invites worse hands to shove over our raise which is much better.

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Do you think that someone who reshoves with AJ would fold it to 14 BB shove?

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Yes cos Norman always says that you can't call off all your chips but if you make the last raise it's ok


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