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Milky 08-13-2007 01:28 AM

10NL Monster Draw
 
First off, do you raise the flop? Second, do you call the all-in?


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>SB: $14.80</u>
<u>Hero (BB): $9.80</u>
UTG: $10.35
<u>CO: $17.60</u>
BTN: $11.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.30</font>, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $17.30</font>, BTN folds, SB calls all-in for $13.50, Hero...?

oliverm 08-13-2007 01:46 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
yes - to get it heads up and in position for free card/showdown.
yes - we have the odds to call approx $7 for $29.4 pot with 9 outs twice

techrush 08-13-2007 01:51 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
nevermind. misread the hand. but i would fold this preflop

Milky 08-13-2007 01:57 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
[ QUOTE ]
1st id fold preflop. A6s isnt what i want to be playing OOP.

2nd i dont think you have enough equity vs his range to really call the allin.

the flop reraise could be ok depending on your reads but i dont think its horrible as long as you are able to get away when he shoves on you like here

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't make it a habit of calling A6s or similar out of the blinds but it was only .20 to me and SB had already called, increasing my pot odds.

Second, if I raise here I think I'm committed, so I don't think I can fold to the re-raise all-in, however my main question was should I even be raising at all... Or is my thinking way off here altogether?

Ikaika 08-13-2007 02:02 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
I agree with folding PF, you're OOP with a speculative hand and playing draws OOP always sucks.

Raising flop is good, and you've got odds to call the push since SB already called. Against a range of sets, straights, 2 pair, and worse FD's you have 33% equity so the call is good.

EMc 08-13-2007 02:18 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
PF isnt terrible, but a fold is best.

As played, call all day long and twice on sundays

ICMoney 08-13-2007 03:49 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
Haven't said this in a while -- Fist Pump.

JROK777 08-13-2007 04:12 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
You have a combo draw. Your equity is 29% if 1 villian has QQ-AA, and other has exactly 66,88,99. I think SB's range has to include a few str8 or FD's as well. If that's the case your equity would skyrocket. Worst case is you have a break even call(plus dead $). Call and feel great about it.

thac 08-13-2007 04:15 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
A monster draw would be A7s.. you have a pair and flush draw and there's a bunch of money in the pot. I doubt your A is good, but it's definitely a call on the flop.

I fold preflop all day though. No point getting in sticky spots OOP with a dominated ace. You won't flop a good draw enough times to make this +EV.

carlj123 08-13-2007 08:36 AM

Re: 10NL Monster Draw
 
get it in there


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