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TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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Each Les press conference makes me hope he isn't our next coach more. He sounds retarded.

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He makes most SEC fans very happy by staying. It's not like he is some amazing recruiter, the school recruits itself & they have almost complete control on a good High School football state. Not that I like looking at rankings in recruiting, but they have 20 guys this year & not a bunch of highly rated ones. Not impressed. They have the 2nd lowest rating per player in the top 15 on Rivals.

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Translation: they have the number 14 rated recruiting class according to rivals.

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Right, but 14 would not be a bad thing if they didn't have 20 guys committed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

rigged81 12-01-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 

As a UC alum, season ticket holder and Michigan hater Brian Kelly in my opinion is the best option. He is a proven winner at every level and is in the same mold of a Jim Tressel. With respect to winning at all levels not in coaching strategy or game management. He runs a gimmicky offence and has made some very shaky game management calls at UC this year. His type of offense does not seem to fit the mold of a typical top tier Big ten team but his offense may change as his talent pool increases.

I am rooting for the Iowa coach so Michigan can have another Carr clone. If they do hire the Iowa coach Michigan can expect another 5-10 years of Tressel dominance. Regardless of who the new coach is Miles just sucked the life out of any momentum Michigan had coming. The new coach will have a big hill to climb to gain any equity against TOSU.

Gregatron 12-01-2007 05:02 PM

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Right, but 14 would not be a bad thing if they didn't have 20 guys committed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Trindon Holiday. Jacob Hester. Both 2*s.

TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 05:07 PM

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Right, but 14 would not be a bad thing if they didn't have 20 guys committed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Trindon Holiday. Jacob Hester. Both 2*s.

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Right, which is why I prefaced my response saying that recruiting rankings/stars are kind of silly. It's somewhat consensus that LSU has got the guys they want but are being looked at strangely for some of the guys. Just thought that I would point out it's not really hard to recruit at a lot of schools so I would be worried about some of Les' in-game decisions just as I would about a bunch of others.

UF:
Brandon James 3*
Maurice Hurt 3*
Wondy PL 2*
Markihe Anderson 3*
Louis Murphy 3*

pvn 12-01-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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The rest of the SEC west gets the best end of this deal IMO. Not very impressed by Miles.

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pvn 12-01-2007 05:41 PM

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Okay. CBS just aired a quick talk between their interview chick and Les Miles that happened after the press conference. He said again, "I'm the coach at LSU, I'm going to be the coach at LSU." She said, "Next year?" and he said, "Yes, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next year."

I guess that's that.

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Right, because coaches never, ever, ever lie about this stuff.

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Franchise 60 12-01-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
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Okay. CBS just aired a quick talk between their interview chick and Les Miles that happened after the press conference. He said again, "I'm the coach at LSU, I'm going to be the coach at LSU." She said, "Next year?" and he said, "Yes, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next year."

I guess that's that.

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"Miles in December 2004, after he received a contract extension at Oklahoma State:
“When I say I'm really happy here, I really am. I don't want to be looked at as (being) in a part-time spot. You got me? I just want you to know – this is a place I want to be. I don't want to talk about anything else, just to let you know.”
A week later, he left for LSU."

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/b...px?column_id=8

Third post down. I don't think Miles is above lying about this for a few days...

Annulus 12-01-2007 06:38 PM

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Okay. CBS just aired a quick talk between their interview chick and Les Miles that happened after the press conference. He said again, "I'm the coach at LSU, I'm going to be the coach at LSU." She said, "Next year?" and he said, "Yes, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next year."

I guess that's that.

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"Miles in December 2004, after he received a contract extension at Oklahoma State:
“When I say I'm really happy here, I really am. I don't want to be looked at as (being) in a part-time spot. You got me? I just want you to know – this is a place I want to be. I don't want to talk about anything else, just to let you know.”
A week later, he left for LSU."

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/b...px?column_id=8

Third post down. I don't think Miles is above lying about this for a few days...

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Hes not coming, Mich would not play these types of shenanigans or would be part of it. Les is an attention whore, the opposite of what Mich wants.

TruFloridaGator 12-01-2007 06:44 PM

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The rest of the SEC west gets the best end of this deal IMO. Not very impressed by Miles.

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Hey, we have to play them every year. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hornacek 12-01-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Herbstreit just came on ESPN and said that he is VERY confident in his sources, and that one of two things could have happened:

a) LSU gave Miles a ridiculous contract that he just could not turn down and beat Michigan to the punch.

b) this saga is not over.

I find it hard to believe that Herby would reiterate how confident he is in his sources on TV. Why not just rescind his comment if its not true?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Riverman 12-01-2007 08:50 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Herbstreit just came on ESPN and said that he is VERY confident in his sources, and that one of two things could have happened:

a) LSU gave Miles a ridiculous contract that he just could not turn down and beat Michigan to the punch.

b) this saga is not over.

I find it hard to believe that Herby would reiterate how confident he is in his sources on TV. Why not just rescind his comment if its not true?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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wowowowowowow

this thing is far from over...

NozeCandy 12-01-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Michigan should just throw 10 million/year at Bob Stoops. Please.

damaniac 12-01-2007 09:20 PM

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Stephen Ross should just throw 10 million/year at Bob Stoops. Please.

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Or Bill Davidson or Tom Monahaghn. Or any of our other rich alums. C'mon, our basketball team just lost to Harvard. The AD needs some help - STAT!

DVaut1 12-01-2007 09:22 PM

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C'mon, our basketball team just lost to Harvard.

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Amaker's Revenge

MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 09:24 PM

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Michigan should just throw 10 million/year at Bob Stoops. Please.

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That would be more than worth it

DVaut1 12-01-2007 09:35 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Herbstreit just came on ESPN and said that he is VERY confident in his sources, and that one of two things could have happened:

a) LSU gave Miles a ridiculous contract that he just could not turn down and beat Michigan to the punch.

b) this saga is not over.

I find it hard to believe that Herby would reiterate how confident he is in his sources on TV. Why not just rescind his comment if its not true?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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wowowowowowow

this thing is far from over...

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Listening to this LSU post-game press-conference...it sure sounds about over. Just said, flat out, he won't talk to us.

Not verbatim but something like this...

Reporter: "you left a little wiggle room..."
Miles: "there's no wiggle room. I'm certain. I can't take another job if I don't talk to anyone. I love it here, it's good to be home".

DVaut1 12-01-2007 09:39 PM

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Now he's taking shots at ESPN/Herbstreit. Says he felt bad for Michigan something so untrue was reported.

Riverman 12-01-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Initial thought is that this reveals Miles as a scumbag. Will change this opinion if evidence is presented.

Jack of Arcades 12-01-2007 09:42 PM

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Initial thought is that this reveals Miles as a scumbag. Will change this opinion if evidence is presented.

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Austiger 12-01-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
People need to realize that there are millions of dollars involved for agents and coaches, as well as TV ratings. The truth isn't really a prioirity when reporting these coaching rumors.

MyTurn2Raise 12-01-2007 09:47 PM

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People need to realize that there are millions of dollars involved for agents and coaches, as well as TV ratings. The truth isn't really a prioirity when reporting these coaching rumors.

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yep...you never find out the truth unless your the coach, AD, or agent involved

even then, it's a one-sided story

DVaut1 12-01-2007 09:47 PM

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Herbstreit gets in a little dig at Miles on the ABC broadcast of the BigXII Champ game:

Musberger: "Miles said no wiggle room...Miles would have to walk on the same branch that Saban did to get to Ann Arbor at this point."

Herbstreit: "Or the same thing Miles did to Oklahoma State".

Austiger 12-01-2007 09:48 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
Herbstreit's exact quote just now on the Missouri broadcast:

"I still feel very confident that somebody close to the situation said he was gonna go to Michigan."

Riverman 12-01-2007 09:48 PM

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Initial thought is that this reveals Miles as a scumbag. Will change this opinion if evidence is presented.

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For Herbie to go on the air, there had to be some legitimate source. I find it hard to believe there was no Miles/UM negotiation and it seems to me he leveraged UM to get more money.

tarheeljks 12-01-2007 09:54 PM

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Initial thought is that this reveals Miles as a scumbag. Will change this opinion if evidence is presented.

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For Herbie to go on the air, there had to be some legitimate source. I find it hard to believe there was no Miles/UM negotiation and it seems to me he leveraged UM to get more money.

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idk, espn has been on the path to journalistic sensationalism for a while now

DVaut1 12-01-2007 09:55 PM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
From the press conference:

"I'll always be a Michigan Man. I'm not going there."

Hornacek 12-02-2007 12:55 AM

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From the press conference:

"I'll always be a Michigan Man. I'm not going there."

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strangely enough... this either makes me

a) really admire him for not coming to UM and sticking to his word
b) thinking he's a real scumbag while he takes our job

what a paradox

DVaut1 12-02-2007 02:15 AM

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From the press conference:

"I'll always be a Michigan Man. I'm not going there."

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strangely enough... this either makes me

a) really admire him for not coming to UM and sticking to his word
b) thinking he's a real scumbag while he takes our job

what a paradox

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If it becomes apparent that he was secretly negotiating with Michigan in order to leverage more dollars out of LSU while having no intention of taking our job, then I vote to take away his Michigan Man membership card.

Given that LSU is probably headed to the national title game and he's made several blanket denials he'll leave LSU, I've conceded it's time to move on and start fawning over another candidate. Brian Kelly is looking like a longshot because of resume issues. Tedford is similarly unlikely and has had some of the shine taken away after the 1-6 finish to this season.

I guess Schiano is now the most appealing of the 'likely' candidates, although I'll admit I don't even know who the 'likely' candidates are anymore.

Riverman 12-02-2007 02:20 AM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
I think its pretty sad that we essentially have to settle for a bunch of 2nd tier candidates. WTF, it's Michigan!

DVaut1 12-02-2007 02:40 AM

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I think its pretty sad that we essentially have to settle for a bunch of 2nd tier candidates. WTF, it's Michigan!

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There's the fundamental issue of institutional conservatism to deal with. I think the job is generally 'appealing' -- there's no reason a decent coach wouldn't come here.

But there aren't a whole lot of coaches who the Athletic Department would consider a good "fit" here. Some schools with Michigan's resources would probably try to drive a truck full of money up to Spurrier's or Stoop's doorstep and convince them to come; not Michigan. That's obviously not how the AD operates (Beilein hire sort of excluded). Some school's would look past the questionable issues on Brian Kelly's resume. Apparently, not Michigan. There's a finite amount of coaches who are proven winners at the collegiate level and who are compatible with what the AD are looking for. Unfortunately, none of them are particularly "sexy". The Detroit News Michigan beat writer listed the probable top-5 candidates, and that list includes Jim Grobe, Tom O'Brien, and Gary Pinkel. Yaaawn. Martin said his ideal candidate would be to clone Lloyd. But I agree with you: if our list is Ferentz, Grobe, O'Brien and Pinkee, we may as well just see if Lloyd's available to rehire, because these guys are 2nd or 3rd tier at best.

Obviously the day's Miles drama + OSU getting into the national title game + realization we don't have any great Plan B's after Miles + basketball team losing to Amaker's Harvard team = bad night, so maybe I'm overly pessimistic right now. The day's action also probably means Michigan is headed to the Cap One bowl (good), but it also means we're probably going to play Florida (bad). I assume we're something like 2 TD dogs in that matchup.

Poofler 12-02-2007 02:40 AM

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Love it when the ESPN guys keep mentioning Herbstreit reported Miles to Michigan.

"Hey, it was the blond guy! Not our fault!"

Riverman 12-02-2007 03:05 AM

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Miles' tone is sooooo similar to Bo...eerie

Annulus 12-02-2007 05:01 AM

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mitch albom puts this situation into good perspective.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...1027&imw=Y

What? 12-02-2007 05:20 AM

Re: Les Miles to Coach Michigan
 
I wouldn't blame Miles if he is outrigtht lying about not going to Michigan. You expect him to disrupt his team before the sec championship and possibly a national championship. Michigan is one that handled this bad.

As far as Herbstreit is concerned, do you expect him to say oops I ran with something I shouldn't have.


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