Improved draw on turn in big pot
 

12-24. Half the people sitting in on labor day cannot spell poker. Lot of middle pairs are being shown down and scooping. Rarely any solid hands have been shown down.

UTG+1 is a young fellow wearing a tight shirt and pretty cocky who raised preflop 10-8 o/s and bet all the way to chop a fullhouse board.

PREFLOP:
UTG+1 limps, MP2 limps, hijack limps, cutoff (posted) checks, I raise otb K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], sb folds, bb calls, UTG+1 3 bets, MP2 calls, hijack calls, cutoff calls, I cap, all call.

FLOP:
10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

bb checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, hijack calls, cutoff calls, I raise, bb calls, UTG+1 calls, hijack calls, cutoff calls.

TURN:
Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

checked to me, I...?


Usually I check in most pots otb with overcards + fd when I get the free card on the turn. Anyone check this turn? If no queen is it an easier check?

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I sure do. How can anybody resist?

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I would check - no one is folding a pair and you have tons of outs. Plus if you check the turn someone will likely bet into you on the river and you can raise if you complete one of your draws. You are not going to win without improvement here against this many opponents - you have to produce the best hand at showdown.

Jeff

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I would check - no one is folding a pair and you have tons of outs. Plus if you check the turn someone will likely bet into you on the river and you can raise if you complete one of your draws. You are not going to win without improvement here against this many opponents - you have to produce the best hand at showdown.

Jeff

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I mostly agree with Jeff here, but I will say its close. I mean if you get two callers you are fine from an equity perspective.

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I might bet this for value, especially if I don't think I will be c/r. Easy check w/out the queen.

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Take the freebe.

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I'm taking a free card. I can't stand to get c'rd here with K high and you will probably get to raise the river if you get there.

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I'm taking a free card. I can't stand to get c'rd here with K high and you will probably get to raise the river if you get there.

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OP edited his post so it looks like I said to check. I would bet this turn w/ the queen and just check the flush draw alone. By the action it doesn't seem all that likely that you'll get c/r'd and how can you be sure that someone will bet in front of you when you get there? Whatever card comes that completes your hand should be too scary for anyone to bet in front of you.