playing QQ in a wierd sng movement
 

This is from a live sng.

UTG seems loose (way loose) aggresive. doesnt really know the meaning of odds, but didn't play garbage so far.
overvalue to pairs & ace high (treats AQo as AA). everyone notice that as far as I can tell.

UTG+1 is a loose passive.

it's early at the 2nd SNG we play.
blinds 30/60, 8 opp. stack ~3000.

Hero, on the button, dealt QQ.
UTG raises to 400 (??)
UTG+1 min raise to 800.
MP call 800.
Hero (mumble "WTF?") ??

Re: playing QQ in a wierd sng movement
 

In a 8 person sng when utg+1 might be reacting to utg's looseness, I can't see folding QQ. I am shoving it in. MPs flat call shouldn't worry you. Seems like your friends/villains are big donks to be honest and can't give anyone credit for a huge hand. If it was JJ I could find a fold, QQ I just can't get away from.

$ amount for sng and payout structure is important.

Re: playing QQ in a wierd sng movement
 

45$+5$ to the house. 1st $270, 2nd 90$.

Most of the villains are indeed donks, but even a donk can have AA.

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put on your "you guys a screwed" face and stick it in.

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Most of the villains are indeed donks, but even a donk can have AA.

[/ QUOTE ] then you should tighten your range to KK+, maybe AA only.

Re: playing QQ in a wierd sng movement
 

UTG looked prety confident with his hand, and I didn't figure what UTG+1 have. does he tried to scare UTG? does he try to isolate the play? wtf is this min hugh raise?
I put MP on JJ, and this was started being damn sick.

So after a long consideration, I called. what do you think of that move here?

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calling is by far the worst option. You don't want to play a 4 way pot w/ 3200 in the middle. Push>>>>fold>>>>call. Chances are if you flat, there will be a raise and re-raise before the action gets to you, making a very tough call or fold. Shove it in with all the chips in the middle. Taking is down pre is definitely not bad.

Re: playing QQ in a wierd sng movement
 

Shove this all day.

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I don't understand this line of thinking. I suspect one of those might have KK+.
This is far beyond regular action, and there are 3 more opp in.
UTG+1 and MP are not that dumb just min raise/flat call to this hugh pot.

I dont understand why shoving is better then calling/fold if there's no Q on the flop.

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UTG+1 and MP are not that dumb just min raise/flat call to this hugh pot.

[/ QUOTE ]if UTG+1 minraises with AA thats fancy, seriously. If MP flats with AK, KK it's just dumb - AA would be on the margin to fancy. And if UTG is raising KK or AA for 7bb he is dumb too.

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I dont care about them, I care about me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
dumb or fancy as they are.