99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

It´s my third hand with both villains, and they both played one hand out of three. Basically, we have nothing.


PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($33.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.65)</font>
SB ($23.15)
BB ($9.65)
UTG ($10.90)
UTG+1 ($4.75)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($32.20)</font>
MP2 ($53.05)
MP3 ($14.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.1</font>, MP2 calls $1.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.85.

Flop: ($4.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $5, UTG folds, MP1 calls $2.50.

Turn: ($19.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $5.

River: ($29.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $10</font> and has 3,55$ left, Hero ?


PF: Nothing special.
Flop: I have an overpair and a solid draw. Until proven otherwise, i consider my hand the best. Odds are fine, but i am woried if MP1 will reraise. If he does, i might fold. (?)
Turn: The bet looks weak, but i am worried if my straight outs are still good. Nice to see MP2 fold, and given the Odds i call.
RIver: This is where it gets ugly. What is his range ? The pot looks so sweet and i like my hand..

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

fold... you got good odds to chase your straight, but i think he probably has a better PP than you most of the time. seems like he wants a call on the river.

maybe he filled up on the turn and gave u a good price.

i think i fold, you're only beating a bluff

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

Ok, and how often do you think villain will bluff here ?

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

This is a terrible flop-call. There's been a bet and a raise and the action's still open and there's a person left to act behind you. Fold.

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

Well, if villain isn't an idiot, i reckon he pushes the turn with all the draws you think he will bluff the river with, so i don't think the river bet is a bluff very often at all.

That wasn't too clear, but basically all the hands you are ahead of on the turn (all draws) are the only things you're beating on the river. If villain was to bluff with these hands, he would probably just push the turn.

There may be the occasion he has A8, but it looks far more likely that he has boated up on the turn/ has a bigger overpair than you do

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

*grunch*

Fold the flop, please. For a number of reasons

a) 2 people donked into you

b) Your fold equity is probably non-existent if you reraise

c) You're barely getting odds to call (assuming you have 10 outs, which is a stretch), but you've got action behind you. If MP1 shoves, you feel sick.

d) You've invested &gt;5% of your stack, so getting out is nice and cheap.

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

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*grunch*

Fold the flop, please. For a number of reasons

a) 2 people donked into you

b) Your fold equity is probably non-existent if you reraise

c) You're barely getting odds to call (assuming you have 10 outs, which is a stretch), but you've got action behind you. If MP1 shoves, you feel sick.

d) You've invested &gt;5% of your stack, so getting out is nice and cheap.

[/ QUOTE ]e) It could get reraised behind you.

Re: 99 as overpair in raised pot - standard ? (PL25)
 

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[e) It could get reraised behind you.

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{e} meet {c}. {c}, {e}