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ProfessorNo2 11-01-2007 09:38 PM

JJ Early in $162 oop
 
Villain in the hand is graybone. I haven't play with him a ton so I don't know if folding here is reasonable or not. A lot of times I re-pop pre, which would've made this hand easier to play but didn't for whatever reason...Does this look ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t3795)
UTG (t2825)
UTG+1 (t2360)
MP1 (t3150)
MP2 (t2885)
MP3 (t2835)
CO (t2935)
Button (t2945)
Hero (t3280)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t180</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t420</font>, CO calls t240.

Turn: (t1050) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t700</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t2425</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2450

Bond18 11-01-2007 10:30 PM

Re: JJ Early in $162 oop
 
Blegh. Given positions i would 3 bet pre flop first of all.

Second, if I'm CRing the flop it's trying to set it up to get it in on most turns i think.

When you take this line intending to fold to a turn shove you've basically turned your hand into one big multi street bluff, and JJ seems to have a bit to much showdown value for that, doesn't it?

Edit: Actually, that's kind of retarded. Like, you have to CR and bet turn unless villain never pays off to this line.

ProfessorNo2 11-01-2007 10:58 PM

Re: JJ Early in $162 oop
 
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When you take this line intending to fold to a turn shove you've basically turned your hand into one big multi street bluff, and JJ seems to have a bit to much showdown value for that, doesn't it?

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I mean, I agree with this, but after c/r'ing flop, I don't really know what other line to take. Don't think I can go into c/c mode or be very happy bet/calling a turn shove.

Bond18 11-01-2007 11:08 PM

Re: JJ Early in $162 oop
 
Yea i don't really think you can profitably call the turn so the fold there is fine. But i think most of all this hand needs a 3 bet pre.

Bond18 11-01-2007 11:13 PM

Re: JJ Early in $162 oop
 
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When you take this line intending to fold to a turn shove you've basically turned your hand into one big multi street bluff, and JJ seems to have a bit to much showdown value for that, doesn't it?

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I mean, I agree with this, but after c/r'ing flop, I don't really know what other line to take. Don't think I can go into c/c mode or be very happy bet/calling a turn shove.

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Yea, it's a tough spot between trying to get value and being in a spot where there might not be a ton. I know i like 3 betting pre, and i know i like a bigger flop CR, and i know i like your turn fold since you beat about nothing. That's what i got so far.


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