Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

Meh, I don't mind the fold too much. After your giant utg raise, the table should be aware that you're sitting on a big hand. With that information, this guy elects to re-raise you.

You're going to end up in an uncomfortable situation fighting for a pot that you already feel you're behind, and can't even win a big one if you hit your queen. That's going to be hard, and that's why I don't mind your fold.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

I think the lay down is very acceptable based on your read. He couldbe even tighter as he has had AA twice in 97 hands.
97 hands, hes played AA,AA,AKs,KQ(late position im guessing) + 2 other hands. im very happy folding QQ.

I then realise im in a great situation to his right to pound his big and small blind. 24c will come back quick enough from tighty mcnuts...

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

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Don't fold.

You could even call your set value, even though QQ is way to strong here.

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totally wrong.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

.02 + .04 + .24 + .70 = $1 pot
to call .70-.24 = 46c

so 46c to call a $1 with a max pot of $1 + $1.30 behind = $2.30. 2.30 / .46 = 5

1 in 7.5 times you will win 5 times your money. not the correct odds for set mining.


You also have no folding equity here as he will surely be pot committed with any decent hand here.


my opinion is a fold still.
nh

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

There are definitely no set-mining odds here. However, you do have enough equity against his range to call here if you think AK is in his range (which, IMO, it probably is).

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287,667,072 games 0.005 secs 57,533,414,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

You're getting more than 2-1 on the call and are a 3-2 underdog against his range. I'd call here and get it in on a low flop. Of course, if you're really sure he'd only do this with AA/KK, there's no harm in folding.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

well If there was ever a time to fold QQ preflop this would be it, I think it's a fine fold and if it was a mistake it was a very cheap mistake compared to the expensive mistake of calling and doubling him up.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

In a bigger game I would fold like 1-2 NL but in a 2-4 cent game if he has me beat he just has me> I am allin and twice on Sunday at this level.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

That makes no sense, you shouldn't think about poker in money, but in odds and corrent/incorrect decisions. Given OP opinion on his villains range this is a fine fold, the only hand he can really beat (which he didn't include in his OP, and doesn't consider part of villains range) is AQs, AJs, or JJ.

I know what you are saying in a way, but no matter what level you play, if you are taking poker seriously you have to make the right decision and I commend the OP for folding in this spot as most players would have insta pushed and be drawing to two outs.

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

Good read, very disciplined fold. You won't be stuck in 2c/4c for long if you can make those tough folds and limit your debits.

"Don't go bust with 1 pair".


.Z

Re: Should I have folded QQ pf here?
 

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In a bigger game I would fold like 1-2 NL but in a 2-4 cent game if he has me beat he just has me> I am allin and twice on Sunday at this level.

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A bad play is a bad play regardless of stakes.