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K䲰䮥n 05-16-2007 07:13 AM

100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
Villain is 22/17/3. He was sitting on three of my tables. This is his first 3-bet preflop on me. I had 3-bet him pretty loose. First he folded but thenm started to call and see some flops.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($0)
SB ($131.25)
BB ($149.15)
UTG ($109.95)
Hero ($127.35)
CO ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($29) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $19</font>, Hero?

Comments on both streets appreciated.

mertzo 05-16-2007 07:22 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
Since you are deep you have the odds to set-mine. Here I would call to reeval, but I guess folding is fine aswell.

K䲰䮥n 05-16-2007 07:27 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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Here I would call to reeval

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turn is
a) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
b) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets 1/2 pot, Hero?

mertzo 05-16-2007 07:50 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
I have to admit i dont like my postflop play in 3bet pots so i have to let someone else answer. On a K-turn i would def fold though.

axioma 05-16-2007 07:53 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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Here I would call to reeval

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turn is
a) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
b) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets 1/2 pot, Hero?

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fold, fold.

Pete H 05-16-2007 08:12 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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Here I would call to reeval

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turn is
a) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
b) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets 1/2 pot, Hero?

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fold, fold.

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Wolfram 05-16-2007 08:52 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
Since this is his first time 3-betting you I like: no set, no bet.

But I guess calling the flop is ok, and then folding to a bet on the turn. It just leaves us awfully vulnerable to a bluff. If he's a good reader he'll realize what your holding is and push you out of the pot.

axioma 05-16-2007 10:50 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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Since this is his first time 3-betting you I like: no set, no bet.

But I guess calling the flop is ok, and then folding to a bet on the turn. It just leaves us awfully vulnerable to a bluff. If he's a good reader he'll realize what your holding is and push you out of the pot.

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not really, board is so dry youd have no reason to raise the flop with a set, so a flop call here with mid pairs is hardly exploitable.

Hince 05-16-2007 10:58 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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It just leaves us awfully vulnerable to a bluff. If he's a good reader he'll realize what your holding is and push you out of the pot.

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I disagree with this... If he is a good reader, that means he knows we have an overpair. It would be rather silly of him to bluff us knowing that we have an overpair.

Therefore, if he fires again, it's probably for value.

Brad1970 05-16-2007 11:12 AM

Re: 100 USD - 99 as an overpair
 
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Since this is his first time 3-betting you I like: no set, no bet.

But I guess calling the flop is ok, and then folding to a bet on the turn. It just leaves us awfully vulnerable to a bluff. If he's a good reader he'll realize what your holding is and push you out of the pot.

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not really, board is so dry youd have no reason to raise the flop with a set, so a flop call here with mid pairs is hardly exploitable.

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I wouldn't be so quick to discount a flop raise...OP said he was 3 betting the villian pretty lightly, which means he was giving him action with mediocre hands &amp; then villian started opening up &amp; playing pots. So, he was setting him up for a situation just like this. Villian may feel OP's light again or on a steal &amp; call/raise into a set. But I wouldn't want to scare him off either so it may be read dependant whether that play would work.


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