2/4 blind defense two pair hand at Commerce
 

Ok sorta aggro lady who might be tilted raises in EP, I defend my BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flop is K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I checkraise and she calls.

Turn is 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I bet, she raises, I 3 bet, she quickly 4 bets...plan?

Thanks,
DeathDonkey

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What does she think of you. That's really key in this hand/.

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Turn is 8 I bet, she raises, I 3 bet, she quickly 4 bets...plan?

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Call and check-raise the river. She has you pegged for KJ, and a young aggro-punk, she is monkey-tilting AK.

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She thinks I'm good and aggressive, maybe a bit LAGgy, but not vastly out of line ever. But she doesn't strike me as the type to be thinking too many levels deep, one of the weaker spots in the game who happens to play pretty well preflop.

-DeathDonkey

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Turn is 8 I bet, she raises, I 3 bet, she quickly 4 bets...plan?

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Call and check-raise the river. She has you pegged for KJ, and a young aggro-punk, she is monkey-tilting AK.

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Checkraising the river is way too much action IMO.

I'd call down and hate doing so.

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"I'd call down and hate doing so."

so just put her on KK and stop right there?

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fwiw my initial response was to call the turn and then donk-fold safe rivers (no A, K, or 3). to me it sounded like she was free showdowning with AA.

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This may appear obvious, but this hand really strikes me as just KK. Calling down seems correct even though you hate doing it and will lose a lot. I feel bad about doing it, and even worse when a 6 or 8 comes and I lose even more bets. The only other hand that seems remotely possible is 88, but there are 3 combos of KK vs. 1 of 88.

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Checkraising the river is way too much action IMO.

I'd call down and hate doing so.

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These two statements don't match, Mike. You can fold to a 3-bet on the river as she's just not bluff 4-betting and bluff 3-betting river. The type of player that DD described is overplaying AK as she has DD on a lesser K.

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She thinks I'm good and aggressive, maybe a bit LAGgy, but not vastly out of line ever. But she doesn't strike me as the type to be thinking too many levels deep, one of the weaker spots in the game who happens to play pretty well preflop.

-DeathDonkey

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So what you're saying is that you're ahead less than half the time but significantly more than never, right?