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PJo336 11-07-2007 06:12 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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just a little fyi about pushing flush draws (like ace high flush draws) from my experience:

if you get raised on the flop, generally you're looking at a hand that negates your high card draws (because of passive nature of micros), thus leaving you with only a bare flush draw. you're usually looking at 2pair+ and in some instances (like Js6s3d) where other guy paired his kicker (AJ) negating ace outs.

just a thought. that's all. carry on with your day.

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where were u 2 months ago

derosnec 11-07-2007 06:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i dunno. i was reviewing hands and came to this realization. sorry if i'm behind the ball. i must not have received my monthly uNL magazine.

ShipitFMA 11-07-2007 06:14 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
BOOOOOOOOOOM

PJo336 11-07-2007 06:16 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i dunno. i was reviewing hands and came to this realization. sorry if i'm behind the ball. i must not have received my monthly uNL magazine.

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im just saying, i could have used that realization told to me over summer

PJo336 11-07-2007 06:17 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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BOOOOOOOOOOM

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOM

ShipitFMA 11-07-2007 06:17 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
HEADSHOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

derosnec 11-07-2007 06:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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BOOOOOOOOOOM

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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<font color="pink"> BOOOOOOOOOOOOM </font>

hennnerz 11-07-2007 06:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i dunno. i was reviewing hands and came to this realization. sorry if i'm behind the ball. i must not have received my monthly uNL magazine.

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I missed this issue too, I am kinda just realising this too fwiw. Now I rarely seem to be pushing FDs hard anymore. People said that you push FDs to make villains see that you play FDs the same as a set. But we play sooo many different people at uNL that it doesn't really make sense.

derosnec 11-07-2007 06:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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HEADSHOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

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Medic!!!!!

thac 11-07-2007 06:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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wtf srsly!! thts sick hot bro, gd job. 8 buyins in 1k hands?

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Try again.

PJo336 11-07-2007 06:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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BOOOOOOOOOOM

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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<font color="pink"> BOOOOOOOOOOOOM </font>

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http://www.tuxpaint.org/gallery/antonis/BOOM.png

ShipitFMA 11-07-2007 06:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
anyone like the bees?

MrWooster 11-07-2007 06:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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how bad did I play this hand villain is 30/4/1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $38.90
UTG: $19.65
MP: $29.60
CO: $24.40
BTN: $24
Hero (SB): $31.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($6) Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29.70 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $20.70

River: ($65.40) 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $65.40 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace high) and WON $62.40 (+$31.20 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and LOST (-$31.20 NET)

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If villain is playing back at you and JT makes the nuts... villain has JT

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LOL

SkeetyMcdoogle 11-07-2007 06:33 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i figured out the only way to stop myself from getting bored and getting fancy and three betting light and bluffshoving and stuff is to 12 table.

im not sure if this just makes me lose faster though

jk1986 11-07-2007 06:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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wtf srsly!! thts sick hot bro, gd job. 8 buyins in 1k hands?

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16 BI
HU FTW [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Mr_Pathetic 11-07-2007 06:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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how bad did I play this hand villain is 30/4/1

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $38.90
UTG: $19.65
MP: $29.60
CO: $24.40
BTN: $24
Hero (SB): $31.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($6) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($6) Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29.70 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $20.70

River: ($65.40) 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $65.40 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace high) and WON $62.40 (+$31.20 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and LOST (-$31.20 NET)

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If villain is playing back at you and JT makes the nuts... villain has JT

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LOL

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hand like this happens once every thousand hands and is the reason why I break even

ShipitFMA 11-07-2007 06:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[x] iheartponeez posts ALOT

Mr_Pathetic 11-07-2007 07:01 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I am done for the day. 1024 hands for a profit of $.30. Had I gotten away from that one hand I would have actually won something. the same villain in the hand I posted went on to crack aces with 74s and river gutshots while i held 2pr and hit his trips on river to out do other persons two pair and in general run hot as the sun against everyone. glad he did not discriminate lol. oh well aside from that one had i posted i played well. i guess i should have bet folded that hand but he so bad he would probably get it in with AQ,AK,KQ there as well. still think it was a bet fold.

StayHungry 11-07-2007 07:19 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Hey anyone, is it just jerking off to tangle with 18/10s and other weak tights n TAGs? I'm sick of looking at KQ after an mp raise from one of them. Even ones who stack off weak, it's still always thin even if i flop decent.

MrWooster 11-07-2007 08:00 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
A quickie - villain is complete unknown...

Do you c-bet this flop or c/f - this flop hits just about every hand and I am OOP but c/f just seems so weak...??

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $5.30
BTN: $5.75
SB: $6.75
Hero (BB): $12.60
UTG: $5.90
MP: $17

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.20</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, UTG calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero

Mr_Pathetic 11-07-2007 08:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
The problem is his pre-flop raise amount. he could do this when he's weak or he could do this when he is really strong. I tend to c-bet little too much once I reraise pre-flop.

sometimes I will just fold hands like this when this situation occurs. I would much rather go after a later position raiser with this hand

MrWooster 11-07-2007 08:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
But I can't fold this pf to a minraise...

StayHungry 11-07-2007 08:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Wooster, its 10nl and hes unknown, he could have anything. You wont know where you're at ever.

jk1986 11-07-2007 08:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Easy bet fold, as long as you do the same with a large range of hands that includes much stronger hands there's not much he can do.

MrWooster 11-07-2007 08:59 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Easy bet fold, as long as you do the same with a large range of hands that includes much stronger hands there's not much he can do.

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So you always c-bet this spot?

bknollenberg 11-07-2007 09:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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anyone like the bees?

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have one of their cds, haven't listened to it. worth listening to?

btw, ship halo3 and xbox360, so so so so so sick omfg.

everyone sweat berky in FTOPS event #1 and berate him constantly because his chat is banned imo, ldo. &lt;3 berk.

thing85 11-07-2007 09:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
is someone here Proval5 on Stars?

jk1986 11-07-2007 09:31 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Easy bet fold, as long as you do the same with a large range of hands that includes much stronger hands there's not much he can do.

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So you always c-bet this spot?

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I would against an unknown, checking basically gives up, and you still have overs + draw to the nuts to if he peels flop too.
If you check then you'd have to make sure you check call and check raise in spots like this sometimes.
I follow the cbet a bit more often oop than in position, in position I like to make use of the showdown value of ace high a lot more.

thac 11-07-2007 09:33 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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everyone sweat berky in FTOPS event #1 and berate him constantly because his chat is banned imo, ldo. &lt;3 berk.

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And me

PJo336 11-07-2007 09:34 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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everyone sweat berky in FTOPS event #1 and berate him constantly because his chat is banned imo, ldo. &lt;3 berk.

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And me

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win or die

kolotoure 11-07-2007 09:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
How many people at unl actually understand why they are 3-betting? I think 95% of unl regs just do it because it is what everybody else does

PJo336 11-07-2007 09:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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How many people at unl actually understand why they are 3-betting? I think 95% of unl regs just do it because it is what everybody else does

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thats why i do it! or cuz i have KK-AA!!!

jk1986 11-07-2007 09:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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How many people at unl actually understand why they are 3-betting? I think 95% of unl regs just do it because it is what everybody else does

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thats why i do it! or cuz i have KK-AA!!!

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2+2 buzz word following FTW

Berky 11-07-2007 10:01 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ftops event bout to start, i'll post updates here

thing85 11-07-2007 10:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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How many people at unl actually understand why they are 3-betting? I think 95% of unl regs just do it because it is what everybody else does

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The way I see it, you're doing it because:

1) +EV from fold equity
2) For value, with a strong hand
3) For value, against someone who opens with a wide range
4) Because when they call, c-betting is often free monies
5) They're stealing your blinds too much and you want them to stop.
6) Sometimes a combination of one or more of the above.

Probably a better, more concise way of saying it, but meh.

Kimo White Devil 11-07-2007 10:31 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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just a little fyi about pushing flush draws (like ace high flush draws) from my experience:

if you get raised on the flop, generally you're looking at a hand that negates your high card draws (because of passive nature of micros), thus leaving you with only a bare flush draw. you're usually looking at 2pair+ and in some instances (like Js6s3d) where other guy paired his kicker (AJ) negating ace outs.

just a thought. that's all. carry on with your day.

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I guess this guy didnt read you.
Hand #47301281-15390 at Gray (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 07/Nov/07 21:19:01

houckie377 is at seat 0 with $40.40.
DeazKnuts is at seat 1 with $101.
Tibokimo is at seat 2 with $100.
miller lite1 is at seat 3 with $41.85.
scriber98 is at seat 4 with $99.30.
blevins4jm is at seat 5 with $25.55.
The button is at seat 0.

DeazKnuts posts the small blind of $.50.
Tibokimo posts the big blind of $1.

houckie377: -- --
DeazKnuts: -- --
Tibokimo: Kd Kc
miller lite1: -- --
scriber98: -- --
blevins4jm: -- --

Pre-flop:

miller lite1 folds. scriber98 folds. blevins4jm
calls. houckie377 folds. DeazKnuts raises to $4.
Tibokimo re-raises to $13. blevins4jm folds.
DeazKnuts calls.

Flop (board: 4c Qc 3h):

DeazKnuts checks. Tibokimo bets $18. DeazKnuts goes
all-in for $88. Tibokimo goes all-in for $87.
DeazKnuts is returned $1 (uncalled).

Turn (board: 4c Qc 3h 2c):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 4c Qc 3h 2c 4d):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

DeazKnuts shows Ac Tc.
DeazKnuts has Ac Tc 4c Qc 2c: flush, ace high.
Tibokimo shows Kd Kc.
Tibokimo has Kd Kc 4c Qc 4d: two pair, kings and fours.


Hand #47301281-15390 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $201.
$.50 jackpot contribution is raked.
DeazKnuts wins $197.50 with flush, ace high.
----------------------------------------------------------------

whyzze 11-07-2007 10:43 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
meh...i would say just value and metagame.

Berky 11-07-2007 10:56 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: 3,920
BB: 4,430
UTG: 6,879
MP: 2,090
CO: 4,080
Hero (BTN): 3,480

Pre-Flop: (90) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 180</font>, Hero calls 180, 2 folds

Flop: (450) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets 300</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 960</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to 3,900 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls 2,340 and is All-In

Turn: (7,050) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (7,050) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 7,050 Pot
CO showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sevens) and LOST (-3,480 NET)
Hero showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON 7,050 (+3,570 NET)

hennnerz 11-07-2007 11:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
FTP SN? GL

thac 11-07-2007 11:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
2225/2679 at 1st break.. nothing going right.

Also, yay at today:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9386/nov7tg2.jpg


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