Final Table FT 55k 88 hand...
 

There are 6 players left. There are no monster stacks or super shorties... everyone is within striking distance.

Blinds 5,000/10,000 (1,000... i think). I have 160,000 at the start of the hand.


I am in the bb with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG raises to 30,000, utg+1 calls, and it folds to me.

There are roughly 80,000 chips in the pot. My first instinct was to push... standard?

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yep

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looks good

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I don't think this is a standard push. What are UTG and UTG+1 like. If you push here and are called, you are at best a coin flip and often a 4:1 dog. It won't be that easy to "steal" the pot with 2 people to get through, but there is a lot of money in the pot.

I would guess at least 75% of the time you are called by 1 player and he will be 50% of the time a coin flip and 50% of the time a 4:1 favorite. Maybe this is pessimistic, but with these numbers it is -ve ev by about a SB

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Reads?
Shove seems good

reads depend a lot on the cold caller.

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reads and stacks on both players as well as prize structure is necessary, looks like a fold though with the info provided even though its close.

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My first instinct was to push... standard?

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Yes, especially if they will call light putting you on a pure steal.

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Your comin in here to say that they might put you on a "pure steal?" cmon now

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Your comin in here to say that they might put you on a "pure steal?" cmon now

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Pure steal? No one makes a squeeze play with junk. This is my hand from the final table bubble of the 100r last night.

With 88, I think you are better off taking the pot than getting called by a loose range. The raiser and callers likely have some kind of hands, and 88 is not a huge favorite.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t87262)
Hero (t23199)
CO (t74095)
Button (t11388)
SB (t74973)
BB (t33084)
UTG (t13604)
UTG+1 (t58605)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3600</font>, CO calls t3600, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t32959</font>, Hero calls t19474 (All-In), CO folds.

Flop: (t60383) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t60383) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t60383) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t50498

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7h 2c (one pair, fours).
Hero has Qh As (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins t50498. BB wins t9885. </font>

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oh well i misread positions here, seems fine unless u think UTG+1 call is terribly strong