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Parvex 11-10-2007 12:05 PM

NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($80.35)
CO ($52)
Button ($17.80)
Hero ($50.25)
BB ($223.60)
UTG ($15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.25, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $6.50, CO calls $6.50, Button folds, Hero calls $5.50.

Flop: ($30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, CO folds, Hero ??

MP was 70/8/1,1 over ~50 hands.
CO was 74/45/2,2 over ~100 hands.
BB war 21/18/2.1 over ~570 hands and seemed pretty competent, also I didn't a special read on him. The other two were pretty much like the stats look, though CO wasn't very aggressive postflop.

I dunno if I should raise or call here. Call has the advantage, that BB might attack our weakness here and it gives him as well as MP a chance to hit some two pair, that I will stack in a heart beat. Pros for Raise are the fact, that MP as the station he is might call a raise loose enough/is going to stack of loose enough, that there is no need to wait until he hits two pair and he could also prevent BB from raising here.

Overall I think, raise is definately better, but I wanna here some more comments I a call prolly has merits too.

doppelganger 11-10-2007 12:15 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
Edit: I'm erasing this post because I did not take PF into consideration either. I must need more coffee.

I'll be back with a different analysis, but for now I pretty much hate the calls PF.

LerkEr 11-10-2007 12:18 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
keep betting :d

toddxlogan 11-10-2007 12:24 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
I think the important part here is that MP is an absolute psycho and is pretty much calling any bet/bluffcalling/etc..... blah blah blah.

You really needed to raise here.

Further, WTF at the randomshove on the turn?

(Guess who I was [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

Todd

Parvex 11-10-2007 12:34 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Further, WTF at the randomshove on the turn?

(Guess who I was )

[/ QUOTE ]

I pretty much came back to mind, that MP would stack off here with so much crap. Also that 7c made made the board way to drawy to risk a freecard.

Not much to guess, when I look at your name [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

toddxlogan 11-10-2007 12:46 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
P.S. How do you have 570 hands on me? Are they like super old or something? You aren't (illegally!!!) datamining, are you? (If so I want in!)

I think I have less than 200 hands on you . . .

cashstrapped 11-10-2007 01:14 PM

Re: NL50 - raise set here or wait one street?
 
fold pre, and then raise flop.


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