Probably really stupid
 

Villain is like 19/11 but he feels the need to defend his blinds to the death against me. I'm folding to 3.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.6SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>,

Re: Probably really stupid
 

Even if he's defending looser there shouldn't be many 2x hands in his range. He should know this is a good board to fastplay 6x in a blind defense. I don't think there's enough value tbh.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

I also doubt there is value in this.

He needs to be good enough to realize that a raise on that river looks like [censored].

But if he is good enough to realize that you run the risk of him 3-betting a worse hand.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

I like it. Most likely he has a PP or 6x. What you did is probably better then 3-betting the flop. Raising this turn would be really bad because he might fold a PP where he'll at least c/c on the river. Plus a river raise may freak him out enough to just call 6x.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

It's not really stupid, but since I hate raise-folding the river with a showdown-worthy hand, I wouldn't do it.

But since, even if Villain will only 3-bet better hands, it seems like there's a really thin range of worse hands that will call, simply calling the river is probably the superior play.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

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I like it. Most likely he has a PP or 6x.

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FWIW, A6-65 is 66 combos, whereas 33-55 and 77-TT is only 42. Probably at least a little weighting should be done, and meanwhile some 2x should be thrown in there, but this raise is for super-thin value (if it's for value at all) that gets crushed if our judgment regarding what a river 3-bet means is off at all.

And I guess I should add that the 2x possibilities are at least somewhat offset by the Qx air flop checkraises that improved.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

this is fun when villian has a 6, thats why I dont do this stuff, yo

Re: Probably really stupid
 

Against a LAG/LAGTAG this makes perfect sense. This guy is a bit more passive than that so for me raising the turn should be best.

Re: Probably really stupid
 

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FWIW, A6-65 is 66 combos, whereas 33-55 and 77-TT is only 42.

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now throw out TT, J6, Q6, T6, 96 add in some 2x, this isn't very thin IMO

Re: Probably really stupid
 

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FWIW, A6-65 is 66 combos, whereas 33-55 and 77-TT is only 42.

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now throw out TT, J6, Q6, T6, 96 add in some 2x, this isn't very thin IMO

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WTF? We're still only beating about half his range so we shouldn't raise, right?