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nuggetz87 11-28-2007 05:50 PM

400nl TT reraised pot
 
villain is weaktite, 20/17 and very good and tricky. definitely in the top 3-5 2/4 players imo. he confuses me a lot.

this hand i feel like if i'm losing he has a king or QQ, definitely not a flush. if i were him i would shove turn with a K though, so it could also look like hearts or diamonds.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $473.30
BB: $455.75
UTG: $400
MP: $89.35
Hero (CO): $775.80
BTN: $542.60

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $64</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $46

Flop: ($136) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $102</font>, Hero calls $102

Turn: ($340) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($340) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $307.30 and is All-In</font>

Praetor 11-28-2007 05:53 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
that turn is such a good barrel card its scary that he didnt bet it, I would fol

BHold 11-28-2007 06:38 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
Tough spot. He knows you don't have a set or flush as you would have pushed flop with FD and either pushed flop or turn with set yes? He basically knows you have 99-QQ the majority of the time here. He also can't have the flush as the turn K is a card he would have to push on with that.

Despite this I still think it's more likely that he has ak/aa and I would fold.

Edit: shouldn't just say ak/aa, i think this is aa/ak/kq/qq very often

RockyElsom 11-28-2007 07:33 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
If you folded it looks hot. If he's really smart he'd bet like 120 on the river with AK.

docnuclear 11-28-2007 07:38 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
why not fold pf against him ??

RockyElsom 11-28-2007 07:39 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
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why not fold pf against him ??

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He knows we're isolating wide so he's prob 3betting wide.

nuggetz87 11-28-2007 07:42 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
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why not fold pf against him ??

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what.



edit: also i guess if it's relevant i run about 24/20. although yesterday i ran 29/24 for 1000 hands and today i ran 20/18 for 1200 hands lol.

hotbacon 11-28-2007 07:43 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
I think that this is a pretty easy fold.
If someone is bluffing here, they almost always 100% bluff the turn, NOT check then bet the river.
And I doubt that he is good enough to plan out a river bluff which looks more like value than a turn shove.

So I fold here.
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why not fold pf against him ??

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because if you are folding TT just because he 3-bet after you iso'd then you will be eaten alive.

Drag007 11-28-2007 08:08 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
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Tough spot. He knows you don't have a set or flush as you would have pushed flop with FD and either pushed flop or turn with set yes? He basically knows you have 99-QQ the majority of the time here. He also can't have the flush as the turn K is a card he would have to push on with that.

Despite this I still think it's more likely that he has ak/aa and I would fold.

Edit: shouldn't just say ak/aa, i think this is aa/ak/kq/qq very often

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wouldnt this make you want to call
pretty sure his 3bet range here is a lot wider than aa ak kq qq (jj could be in his range too tho)

TheJackale 11-28-2007 08:16 PM

Re: 400nl TT reraised pot
 
When I play against Weak Tite he minimum has 888 here, but I usually end up paying him off anyway.

I think you should fold, I don't often see him getting out of line for full stacks on a board like this.


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