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NutsPlayer 11-22-2007 05:45 AM

NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $110.45
Hero (UTG): $117.23
CO: $534.85
BTN: $130.09
SB: $122.55

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, BTN folds, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, CO calls $11, <font color="red">SB raises to $44</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Stats
SB: 19 hands, 21/10/3.
CO: 67 hands, 44/11/1.2.

So, what you will do? Fold to this c/r, mb call and how you will play on turn&amp;river? Or mb raise allin? What opponents can have here?

early325 11-22-2007 05:49 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
any reads at all on villain?

pr0crast 11-22-2007 05:53 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
19 hands not enough for a real stats-based read. Vs. a 18/16 type player, I think I'd reluctantly lay down (biggest part of their range for calling raises oop is small-mid pairs), but vs. a 25/10 type player I think I'd def get it in here (lots more draws, AQ, etc). Vs. an unknown that probably falls inbetween the two, I'd probably err with getting it in, because I can't stomach folding to AQ here, esp. on this super drawy board.

NutsPlayer 11-22-2007 06:07 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
Nope, no reads. Only this stats...

early325 11-22-2007 06:13 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
oops didnt even see stats..

i balance between shoving and calling/shoving safe turns

i never fold here

Vavavoom 11-22-2007 07:21 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
I don't know what I would do here....

CO has a draw of some sort... SB just checkraising like that makes me feel like a two-pair/set type hand as opposed to a draw...

If you call - I think the money goes in on a non-heart turn, so you really have to decide whether you think you are beat here..

I think you are ... but I would have a hard time folding.. Fold..U have $15 in the pot and wait for a better spot...

Also, something I have started doing is changing my bet sizes...

UTG raises to $5 and MP/CO to $4.50 and BTN raise to $4 as you have position so can control the pot size... The earlier you get into a pot with people to act behind you, the more aggressive you want to be...

Also, how will people have percieved you so far ?

Aces0Kingz 11-22-2007 07:25 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
i think i shove im not folding to AQ T8 JT or a flush draw.

NutsPlayer 11-22-2007 09:15 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
Okey, thx for your answers.. But I shoved it and here is the end of this hand:

Hero shoves, CO calls $102.23, SB calls $69.23

Turn: ($352.69) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.32 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $5.32

River: ($363.33) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 are All-In)

Results: $363.33 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$117.23 NET)
CO showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and LOST (-$122.55 NET)
SB showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $361.33 (+$238.78 NET)

Bulletproof Monk 11-22-2007 11:07 AM

Re: NL100: KK vs. 2 opponents
 
shove all day this deep

even against Q9 we have decent equity


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