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HermannTL 11-27-2007 03:53 PM

K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero...

I've only been at the table for a couple of orbits and UTG+1 has been here for only one orbit, but he has been in virtually every hand so far. SB has been in a bit more than half the hands and very aggressive Preflop and on the flop (56/18.8/2.2 but 3.5 on the flop).

My thoughts: At this instant I'm getting 5:1 odds (20:4) for a flush draw to the 2nd nuts, but I'm going to assume that UTG+1 is going to cap this and SB will call so I'd be getting 26:6. I don't think my King overcard is worth much, maybe one out at most. I'm going to ignore the possible gutshots. I believe I have the odds to draw even though there's a chance that the nut flush draw is out there.

Dankenstein 11-27-2007 04:03 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
Call down for the flush.

neurotiq 11-27-2007 04:12 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
Call it. Don't think twice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You'll only be contributing 33% of the pot's equity, but you're expected to hit 35% of the time. Since 35% &gt; 33%, call. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

fretelöo 11-27-2007 04:17 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Call it. Don't think twice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You'll only be contributing 33% of the pot's equity, but you're expected to hit 35% of the time. Since 35% &gt; 33%, call. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Eh, no. DUCY? It's still a call, though.

BadBigBabar 11-27-2007 04:20 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
return of the friiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttoooooooossssss [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

LukeSLTS 11-27-2007 04:33 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
Don't be afraid of having the second best flush draw. Also, I am not sure what freteloo is getting at.

fretelöo 11-27-2007 04:40 PM

Re: K7s Flush Draw on an active flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Don't be afraid of having the second best flush draw. Also, I am not sure what freteloo is getting at.

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Well, obv. you're only 35% to hit if (a) your FD is clean (which it'll not be always) (b) your opponent don't already have a hand that has a good redraw to a flush. With a bet, call, raise and 3bet, that seems a plausible assumption, so you gotta discount your 35% equity somewhat. Not enough to fold, obv., but the way to get good at this stuff is not so much doing the right thing but knowing why it's the right thing.

(disclaimer: I have no idea how a 2c/4c FR games plays these days).


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