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tannenj 11-24-2007 05:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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cool. 50 it is. hopefully i'll have it posted by tomorrow, but i'm a retard when it comes to technology so it's possible i'll run into some trouble.

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video is "rendering." i don't know what that means, but it should be on megaupload within an hour or two.

hra146 11-24-2007 05:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
First time playing 6max again after 4 months of HUSnG BR-building (not really playing and/or winning a lot). I used to be a 15/12 uber-nit thinking he was TAG and knew about postflop play. God I was so wrong. I think Im on my way to change things though, the HU experience helps a ton.








http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/285/nl50jha6.jpg


+$100 sklanksy bucks.



I hope I will never ever turn into that weaktight something ever again.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3992/sdwoy3.jpg

tannenj 11-24-2007 05:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
hot

Manchild84 11-24-2007 06:17 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Hey guys... I've got another survey here. (For those of you who missed the one last week, my gf's doing a project on it for her Design class at uni.)

Thanks a lot for the answers last week.

http://www.createsurvey.com/c/60443-Vhtlwz/

I just did it and it takes about one minute.

Last week's answers were pretty predicatable:

Most people are males from 18-30
Most play for profit
Pretty much everyone prefers online to B&M
Lots of people have PS2s and X360s.

I think that was about it.

Thanks again.

Micro Donk 11-24-2007 06:21 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Hey guys... I've got another survey here. (For those of you who missed the one last week, my gf's doing a project on it for her Design class at uni.)

Thanks a lot for the answers last week.

http://www.createsurvey.com/c/60443-Vhtlwz/

I just did it and it takes about one minute.

Last week's answers were pretty predicatable:

Most people are males from 18-30
Most play for profit
Pretty much everyone prefers online to B&M
Lots of people have PS2s and X360s.

I think that was about it.

Thanks again.

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on the "what facualty are you enrolled in college/university" question, there should be an other and undecided option

ajmargarine 11-24-2007 06:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Oh man, everyone's making videos!!!

Speaking of which, I downloaded Camtasia and just was fiddling around with it. I plan to make a 6-tabling NL50 video for y'all. Probably wait til next week though as I see there's currently 3 vids coming out all at the same time.

Profish2285 11-24-2007 06:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Yea gotta say I love this video thing. Every other day there are new videos and I really think they help everyone when people do this. Maybe when I stop sucking and gain self control I will make one.

DaycareInferno 11-24-2007 06:50 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i was thinking about making a video that mainly focused on table selection and using various software while playing, but i dunno if there would be all that much interest in something like that.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 07:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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ICMoney,

Over how long of a period is that datamined? Which limits do you mainly datamine and how many tables at a time? Do you have a separate account setup to double the number of allowed tables open?

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I started to datamine nl25 and nl50 when I only played Fold-n-Goes on PokerStars.

I haven't played donk-n-goes for about a year now, so some of those stats might be pretty old.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 07:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I just took that survey.

I studied marketing research in college - so I'm a sucker for helping out on these things.

Just as a side note - I get tilted when the United States isn't the default country (Afghanistan?? lame).

mocky 11-24-2007 07:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i was thinking about making a video that mainly focused on table selection and using various software while playing, but i dunno if there would be all that much interest in something like that.

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im interested!

Wilpro 11-24-2007 08:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Someone decent should make a 6 table 10nl vid, would be awesome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

MrWooster 11-24-2007 08:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I want HBomb to make a vid - stars 50NL 18 tables....

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Someone decent should make a 6 table 10nl vid, would be awesome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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What kind of numbers would you like to watch?
15/13
17/15
19/16
22/18
30/25
etc


I might make one if I ever found the time, but I'm not sure if I could run below 40/20 at 10nl.

Wilpro 11-24-2007 08:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
solid TAG, so 15/13 or 17/15 would be nice. Obviously do lots of tables, so you can show how to maximise value. Just go through how to beat the players who play so bad, i am having a harsh month and need some kind of guidance.

wingchunflush 11-24-2007 08:16 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I could do this show everyone how to lose money lol. I can play 6 tables and usually run around 21/19 but I can play 17/15

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Would you want overlap or just small tables?

Not sure how good my commentary would be with 6 tables.

I usually only 3-4 table without commentary when I play.

Micro Donk 11-24-2007 08:19 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i think the best videos are the ones that show how you naturally play, that way you arent forcing anything

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Oh yeah, when I was messing around 10nl with a friend I found it so easy to 3bet IP, CB and take down the pot.

At 10nl I think it's better to play lag/tag than tag/nit.

Wilpro 11-24-2007 08:21 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
4 tables would also be fine. Just want some nl10 action, because i have watched alot of 50nl videos, but the game does play fundementally different.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I could prob do a 4 table 10nl vid this weekend.

I'm not really a talkative guy, but I could show you how I play.

Could you give me a list of talking points about things that are giving you trouble?

hra146 11-24-2007 08:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
22/18

Wilpro 11-24-2007 08:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Ok will list a few things, might come up with more.
1) Continuation betting, dealing with people who minraise everytime you cont bet.
2) Double barelling (linked to first)
3) Marginal hands against maniacs
4) Preflop 3betting

A huge leak in my game seems to be continuation betting, i lose tonnes of 10bb pots because i am cont betting and people are calling down light. I find it hard to make this money up when i do get a real hand and want to bet for value.

whyzze 11-24-2007 08:41 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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[ QUOTE ]
Someone decent should make a 6 table 10nl vid, would be awesome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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What kind of numbers would you like to watch?
15/13
17/15
19/16
22/18
30/25
etc


I might make one if I ever found the time, but I'm not sure if I could run below 40/20 at 10nl.

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just play solid poker. Play like you do at your normal limit. adjusting your preflop range is only going to hurt the quality of the vid imo.

Its the postflop decisions that matter. If anyything you should play looser to try and find some tough spots.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Cool, thanks man.

I might actually play some 50nl tonight, but when I'm done I'm going to datamine the heck out of 10nl.

For reads and commentary I will prob just 3 table and try to focus on hands, even when I fold pf (a big leak of mine).

I don't work Sunday/Monday, so will get this puppy out.


Keep the talking points coming so I don't become a mime.

later guys

Micro Donk 11-24-2007 08:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Ok will list a few things, might come up with more.
1) Continuation betting, dealing with people who minraise everytime you cont bet.
2) Double barelling (linked to first)
3) Marginal hands against maniacs
4) Preflop 3betting

A huge leak in my game seems to be continuation betting, i lose tonnes of 10bb pots because i am cont betting and people are calling down light. I find it hard to make this money up when i do get a real hand and want to bet for value.

[/ QUOTE ]

the easy way to start is by recognizing who you should c-bet against and who you shouldnt, then following through. a good player could easily exploit that, but typically, they arent good players.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 08:50 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Some of you know my FT name from posts/previous vid.

If you see me at 10nl, please don't join my tables and show off for the camera.

Thanks

creamfillin 11-24-2007 08:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Is anyone here 'Shrazor' on stars?

Wilpro 11-24-2007 09:09 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Just going over my last 5k hands on PT made a cool little paint out of all 169 hands! Surprising just how much of my PFR range are losing me money :/

Wont post image though as its way too long, but will give a link.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3...nds10nlpr0.jpg

andy099 11-24-2007 09:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $26.25
SB: $64.35
BB: $63
UTG: $29.35
Hero (MP): $111.65
CO: $45.10

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.35</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.05

Flop: ($3.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.65</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $5.30</font>, Hero calls $2.65

Turn: ($13.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $22.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $22.70

River: ($59.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $59.15 Pot ($2.95 Rake)
UTG showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and LOST (-$29.35 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and WON $56.20 (+$26.85 NET)

well played villain

ICMoney 11-24-2007 09:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Unless you had a read - I think it's a pretty well-played hand (except for the overbet).

He limp calls UTG - this is more likely to be a PP/Tx as anything else.

You are prob 50% at best against his range and he should have folding equity.

I would never play a hand like he did.
Just my .02.


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Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $26.25
SB: $64.35
BB: $63
UTG: $29.35
Hero (MP): $111.65
CO: $45.10

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.35</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.05

Flop: ($3.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.65</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $5.30</font>, Hero calls $2.65

Turn: ($13.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $22.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $22.70

River: ($59.15) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $59.15 Pot ($2.95 Rake)
UTG showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and LOST (-$29.35 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and WON $56.20 (+$26.85 NET)

well played villain

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hra146 11-24-2007 09:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
standard



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($32.70)
Hero ($50)
CO ($93.35)
Button ($65.55)
SB ($69.25)
BB ($28.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($6.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero folds, CO calls $2.

Turn: ($10.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks.

River: ($10.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $35.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $81.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $124.25</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: $216.25

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins $216.25. </font>

ICMoney 11-24-2007 10:06 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Wow - 3 or 4 new vids posted in uNL today.

I might have to check these out first.

Thanks guys.

(am I ever going to play some hands tonight???)

hra146 11-24-2007 10:07 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
wow, pokerstars is A TON softer than partypoker after 20:00 ET.

Micro Donk 11-24-2007 10:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Wow - 3 or 4 new vids posted in uNL today.

I might have to check these out first.

Thanks guys.

(am I ever going to play some hands tonight???)

[/ QUOTE ]

well after you watch mine youll probably play worse

whyzze 11-24-2007 10:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wow - 3 or 4 new vids posted in uNL today.

I might have to check these out first.

Thanks guys.

(am I ever going to play some hands tonight???)

[/ QUOTE ]


I hate megaupload with a passion.

Has anyone else noticed that legopoker lets you upload vids? I tried to check it out but was too lazy to make an account. So I dont know anything about the uploading/viewing of the vids.

ICMoney 11-24-2007 10:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I think that LeggoPoker site is going to be so sweet.

When I get through watching all these CardRunner vids I will prob subscribe to LeggoPoker too.

FWIW, Cardrunners and StoxPoker have member vid features.

DaycareInferno 11-24-2007 10:12 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i don't know you tightasses don't just buy some hosting space. its super cheap for space and bandwidth these days.

kolotoure 11-24-2007 10:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I have an important county soccer game in 10 hours so I am going to 6-table until then. gogogogo

hra146 11-24-2007 10:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i don't know you tightasses don't just buy some hosting space. its super cheap for space and bandwidth these days.

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Uhm, its "super cheap" when youre hosting pretty pictures of your girlfriend. But a 200MB video that is posted on the worlds biggest poker forum may become costly very very quickly.


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