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mikever 03-27-2007 05:03 AM

Donkey Test
 
There is a great little test on Poker at www.donkeytest.com and I thought it would be a good idea to discuss the questions here. If you haven't already, please take the test (I'm not selling it or anything, but there is an option to pay for some more in-depth analysis after you take it. But to get your score is free.)

After taking the test, I realized I have a lot of holes in my game I need to address. I scored average, and I think that is about right.

I will post the questions, one at a time, here. I will give us plenty of time to discuss. Please, I am here to learn the right way, so if you are clueless, just read along and let the better players give their thoughts. I also hope the owners of Donkey Test don't mind, since this should also bring people to their site who will pay for their services.

I would really appreciate it if some top players would comment, even on the apparently simple questions, so I could see where I am going wrong. Thank you very much. There are a total of 50 questions, and I estimate that at a question a day it will take about 2 months to go through them all, but it should be a fruitful experiment.

kazana 03-27-2007 06:01 AM

Re: Donkey Test
 
The worst hand HU all-in is 32o.

Even though 32o has one benefit over 72o, namely connectedness, the highcard strength of 72o against a random hand outweighs that.

Just to make this absolutely clear, here is what Pokerstove says:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 34.584% 31.71% 02.87% { 72o }
Hand 1: 65.416% 62.54% 02.87% { random }

equity win tie
Hand 0: 32.303% 29.24% 03.06% { 32o }
Hand 1: 67.697% 64.63% 03.06% { random }

mikever 03-27-2007 07:30 AM

Question 2
 
Since the first question was answered so well, and doesn't need much more discussion, I thought I'd go ahead and put the next two questions up. Again, feel free to answer the poll and post your answer along with the correct reasoning.

mikever 03-27-2007 07:35 AM

Question 3
 
Please remember to look at www.donkeytest.com

I'm not working for them, but I want to make sure they get sufficient publicity (along with cardrunners.com) since I am using their test as a basis for discussion.

Here is Question 3. The questions do get more difficult as we go along.

magicratx 03-27-2007 07:36 AM

Re: Question 2
 
Has to be an instant fold here under the gun 9 handed. Calling is not an option neither is raising as in both cases you cant call a re-raise and are likely dominated if raised.
Hands like this will always cost you money as even if you hit the flop hard it will be difficult to make any money as you are OOP.

magicratx 03-27-2007 07:42 AM

Re: Question 3
 
[ QUOTE ]
Please remember to look at www.donkeytest.com

I'm not working for them, but I want to make sure they get sufficient publicity (along with cardrunners.com) since I am using their test as a basis for discussion.

Here is Question 3. The questions do get more difficult as we go along.

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Would help if you knew what the original raiser did here.
But assuming that they folded (actually probably the same if they called), then i would fold (although im a nit) as at best you will be 55%-45% and worst around 20-80 (although the new breed of players may call if they are a coinflip at BEST)

mikever 03-27-2007 07:55 AM

Re: Question 3
 
The original middle position raiser folded. It's at the bottom of the question.

magicratx 03-27-2007 08:02 AM

Re: Question 3
 
oh yea i see it now, still a fold though given the read here

DWarrior 03-27-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Question 3
 
Pot: $25 SB + $1500 BB + $200 Early raiser + $200 yours
$1300 to call

Total pot after call: $3225

Hand 0: 57.240% 57.04% 00.20% 293023920 1012998.00 { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 42.760% 42.56% 00.20% 218641284 1012998.00 { TT }

3225*.4256=1379.01 call

Hand 0: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }

3225*.40109=1293.51525 close fold

I chose call.

PS, I took this test a while ago, and I remember making a bunch of calls like these based on PStove analysis.

runout_mick 03-27-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Question 3
 
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I chose call.

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