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SABR42 11-06-2007 11:21 PM

400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
Villain is a passive fish preflop (55/6), but makes big bluffs after the flop.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $459.25
UTG+2: $509.15
MP1: $234
MP2: $427.50
Hero (CO): $461
BTN: $738.95
SB: $444
BB: $326
UTG: $421.90

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $4, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $16

Flop: ($46) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50</font>, UTG+1 calls $30
<font color="blue"> I think a small "goofball" raise is the best play here. I invite him to come along (hopefully even 3-bet), plus I get more money into the pot. </font>

Turn: ($146) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80
<font color="blue"> I think he's bluffing here a ton, so I don't want to scare him away with a second consecutive raise. </font>

River: ($306) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $311 and is All-In</font>
<font color="blue"> Well this is obvious... </font>

soah 11-06-2007 11:25 PM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
dislike pf given description

The Eureka Kid 11-07-2007 12:11 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
I dunno, I don't like isolating this kind of player with this sort of hand. Although you are a better player than I am [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. Post-flop is sweet I reckon.

too eazy 11-07-2007 12:18 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
i play this the same everywhere but pf.

too eazy 11-07-2007 12:19 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
actually i probably bet 100 on the river, maybe 90.

CalledDownLight 11-07-2007 12:24 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
I like going with $188 on the river. Don't like preflop.

Mr_Donktastic 11-07-2007 01:02 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
You guys really don't like preflop??? I'm w/ u sabr...

Postflop looks good too. River I like ~$150 or shove - depends on your reads and table dynamics and stuff.

soah 11-07-2007 01:26 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
yeah I love getting involved preflop against a guy who plays aggressively and unpredictably postflop when I have a complete garbage hand that will rarely make much of anything [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

although I did misread the position initially and thought we were further off the button, which makes it a bit closer

Mr_Donktastic 11-07-2007 01:29 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah I love getting involved preflop against a guy who plays aggressively and unpredictably postflop when I have a complete garbage hand that will rarely make much of anything [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

although I did misread the position initially and thought we were further off the button, which makes it a bit closer

[/ QUOTE ]

All he said is that he makes big bluffs postflop.

I assume he plays like a typical fish the majority of the time, right? Its not like he can bluff big every hand. And if you happen to catch vs him you might get paid off big.

Why wouldn't you want to play HU in position against someone like that?

And J7s isn't garbage imo.

SABR42 11-07-2007 01:32 AM

Re: 400 NL, I isolate a donk and hit the flop hard. Extraction?
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah I love getting involved preflop against a guy who plays aggressively and unpredictably postflop when I have a complete garbage hand that will rarely make much of anything [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
J7s is pretty much the bottom of my range here. I wouldn't isolate with ATC.


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