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ALReturnsLOL 11-05-2007 02:56 PM

NL200 AA vs Tag
 
mmmmhk this guy seemed like a solid aggro tag, he views me as same about 25/18, has not gotten out of line.

Pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($198)
BB ($166.90)
UTG ($213.24)
Hero ($200)
CO ($219.20)
Button ($212.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $17.

Flop: ($53) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

Turn: ($123) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $70</font>, Hero shoves $140 (All-In), Button calls $70.

River: ($403) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $403

early325 11-05-2007 03:00 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
4bet here almost always, IMO

c/r flop

his range is mostly AQ/AK/KK .. it needs to be AK or a bluff like 65% of the time here, and imo it isn't

jk3a 11-05-2007 03:01 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
really dislike the flop. bet/shove ai or crai. you can prob. fold the turn as played or call and c/f the river

spivey 11-05-2007 03:03 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
The only reason to flat pre and check flop is to CRAI on the flop.

carrotsnake 11-05-2007 03:36 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
no its not

Shizzle12345 11-05-2007 03:39 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
[ QUOTE ]
4bet here almost always, IMO

c/r flop

his range is mostly AQ/AK/KK .. it needs to be AK or a bluff like 65% of the time here, and imo it isn't

[/ QUOTE ]
I dont like 4betting this without history. I never 4bet it if i havent been 4betting in the past. Funny that cts said the same [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] . You get way more value long term if you call this preflop. by 4betting this without crazy image, you basicly scream AA and KK here.

ManChild 11-05-2007 06:07 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
wow i cant believe the advice in this thread.

PF you definitely don't have to 4bet, you can 4 bet if you've been 4 betting but if not then calling is usually better

the K on the turn is a card that he will often bet with a pretty big % of his range because you will likely now fold PPs like JJ and TT that you had gotten to the turn with

his range is in no way AQ+AK+KK+ thats so ridiculous

his range is huge,
he may be semi bluffing a drawing hand here (as there are 2 flush draws and a straight draw)

he may be on air and be betting the K because its a scare card for a lot of your range

After the turn bet by him you need to stick it in to charge his draws. he will probably not bet again on the river with anything he wont call the turn with so just get it in now

Fonkey123 11-05-2007 06:15 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
nh, you play better than your intelligence suggests

nuggetz87 11-05-2007 06:29 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
perfect, c/r flop is complete junk here.

skates 11-05-2007 07:22 PM

Re: NL200 AA vs Tag
 
I like the line. CRAI flop is awful on this board. Turn shove is way good. AK hit, two different 2-flushes, and TJ.


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