AA on scary Board
 

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Re: AA on scary Board
 

Any previous reads, betting patterns at all on UTG+1? ANy range of hands that UTG+1 had raised PF with before and took to showdown?

Re: AA on scary Board
 

reads would definitely be helpful here.

i think you could bet/fold on the turn against a lot of opponents.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

dont really like the turn + river play.. i think that is a bet/fold situation since you have no read for the opponent.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

If he calls the Turn c/f River?

Re: AA on scary Board
 

I could see betting out on the turn and folding to a raise. I don't really like calling down 2BB to see his club.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

Without a read on UTG+1 as being a total idiot, I'm folding on the turn. I'm also not sold on the flop 3bet--I'd much rather call his raise &amp; pop a non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

What can you beat? Possibly a KK,QQ without a club. Maybe JJ without a club. How likely is it that your opponent has one of these hands? IMO the bet fold line has a disadvantage that your opponent might very well raise you on the turn with one of these hands. I can't see where you played it that bad and your c/c on the turn may encourage your opponent to bet a worse hand convinced that you don't have a club. Opponent may slow down on the river after a c/c too. You're not a favorite but the pot is laying you a decent price to call down IMO.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

I think that the turn is the place to dump our ahnd, but I think C/F is probably the way to go. If he checks behind again, I C/C the river (yes, I know we're ahead, but I want to induce a bluff.)

I can't see anything that we could ever be ahead of given the preflop/flop action.

Again, if we have some reads, I might play this differently, but against your average 20/5/1 type, I think anything other than a C/F is us not admitting that we are truly crushed.

Re: AA on scary Board
 

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If he calls the Turn c/f River?

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If for some reason you bet the turn (I still prefer check/fold there) and he calls, I bet/fold the river.