50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

Villain is like 48/20/2 over this 150 hand session thus far. He's a fish, but more stationish, not a bluffer. IS this a call just from a pure odds standpoint???

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $67.50
BB: $26.80
UTG: $48.70
Hero (BTN): $65.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.00, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($7.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, BB calls $5.50, UTG calls $5.50

Turn: ($24.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, BB calls $16.00, UTG calls $16.00

River: ($72.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $2.80</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $24.70</font>, Hero ???

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

Crap. I guess I'd probably call because of the pot size, but I'd kind of feel like I was throwing my money away while I was doing it.

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

You made a ballsy bet on the turn and they ain't goin nowwhere - the only thing to consider is whether you are beating UTG and not the other guy who is AI and you can get most of your money back - is there a name for that?

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

is the turn bet really terrible here? i was gonna fold to a crai from UTG. I just figured its multiway, theres a FD out there and these guys will peel that flop with guttersso I bet for value/protection.

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

I do not think UTG is ever bluffing here...The pot is protected and I doubt he would do this with a lesser Ace to isolate the BB..

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

I bet the flop more, $6 minimum, probably 6.50.

River is a fold, there's not anything in the world you're beating.

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

I hate these situations. When the flush hits on the river, I always wish I had pushed the turn.
I think you have to fold.

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

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is the turn bet really terrible here? i was gonna fold to a crai from UTG. I just figured its multiway, theres a FD out there and these guys will peel that flop with guttersso I bet for value/protection.

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Not at all, it just all went pear shaped [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I do like the idea mentioned of the flop bet at the larger end of the scale, might just have sparked different action allowing you to get away - doubt it though, @$#% happens.

Re: 50nl: hand vs fish when the flush hits the river
 

id probably bet alittle more on the turn like $20 since we got 2 callers...Given your read i think i would fold the river, we are gettin good odds but i cant really see us being ahead here i dont think a station is pushin the river w/ like TPGK hands all this might just be from my results of lately tho

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is the turn bet really terrible here? i was gonna fold to a crai from UTG. I just figured its multiway, theres a FD out there and these guys will peel that flop with guttersso I bet for value/protection.

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yea i def like a turn bet, but if your goin to fold to a CRAI then on the river id def fold w/o really considerin the odds