turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

PF i normally 3 bet, lets forget that part, first hand at table, flopped flush draw, after donking flop, whats the best turn line, b/f, b/c, c/c?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, CO calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (4.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Re: turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

Smooth calling PF and then donking the flop seems really bad. was the plan to C/R or C/C the turn?

Re: turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

c/r flop / bet turn vor value / bet river for value
calldown a raise

Re: turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

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Smooth calling PF and then donking the flop seems really bad

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agreed, i dont want to focus on PF, i almost always 3 bet here, i didnt want flop to check thru and if i am raised i might be lost. My question was now that i got here what would be ur turn line?

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c/r flop / bet turn vor value / bet river for value
calldown a raise

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yea i dont mind this, i def like c/r here on flop, just didnt want it to get checked thru on 3 diamond board, if we get raised on turn do we call and then call river?

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just didnt want it to get checked thru on 3 diamond board

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Explain please? If he has the Ad or Qd do you really think he's going to check? Arent the only hands that check the flop either flopped flushes or hands with at most two outs?

Re: turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

flopped flushes, middle PP, mid pair, air

but yea i think you are right, he is betting here more than enough for me to c/r and get more equity with the guy behind calling.

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flopped flushes, middle PP, mid pair, air

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Middle PP or Mid pair never checking behind on the flop if they have a clue. Most air is betting as a bluff hoping that you have nothing. If he has air he's not calling your donk so win nothing, but he will often bluff with it. Even if he checks behind he drawing to most likely 2 or 4 outs

Re: turn spot with JJ vs unknown
 

I hate preflop and flop but you said ignore those so that's fine.

Once I get to the turn I'm betting all the way and calling down if he raises.

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I hate preflop and flop but you said ignore those so that's fine.

Once I get to the turn I'm betting all the way and calling down if he raises.

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this is pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

I just dont understand the your line on any street before the river though