OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

Hey folks,
gonna do this street by street.
what's your play - flop to river ?
UTG is totally braindead
SB has been giving me tonnes of grief over the last few days, stacking me quite a few times. he's 40/20/2.7.

who isolates PF ? who flat calls ? why ?


Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($175.03)
Hero ($110.36)
UTG ($15.86)
MP ($47.81)
CO ($24.45)
Button ($57.42)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, SB calls $5.50, Hero ..... ?

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

Normally I just fold OOP but I don't know what hands UTG would minraise me with? And given his stack, there's not much value to gain from him.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

..........

Hero puts on his donkey cap and calls $2.75.

Flop: ($18.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

Hero ..... ?

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

define tough, is he good or bad? Against a decent player you have close to 0FE. You can't fold here that's for sure, although it's not a great spot to be in.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

folding preflop is not terrible imo. Allthough I aggree it doesn`t looks to good for our image. We gonna be in a terrible spot postflop, with AJ being oop vs 2 oponents.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

The UTG limp and then raise is usually AK at the least, fold. As played this is the kind of flop you were looking for when you called, raise it up and call a shove hope he has AA and you hot one of your outs.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

SB calling UTG's minraise makes it a PF fold for you.

How many hands is the sample over? I'm inclined to think that a 40/20/2.7 is more inclined to be donkish than a truly good LAG, which according to Pokey rarely exist at these levels anyway. Given his line of open complete/cold call he looks more so like a moron than anything else. WTF does he want to play OOP against an initial overbet by you and then a limp/raise from UTG? He either wants to play some sort of SC OOP with no implied odds from UTG, which makes him bad, or he is VERY strong, with his range limited to about TT+ or AK or KQ w/king of clubs.

At this point I raise hoping to get it in on the flop.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

Jaaiks. MONSTER. I want to get it in here.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

I feel like I give up this hand pre-flop. After the limp re raise, I want nothing to do with this hand. I tend to trust people of Limp reraise no matter their stats.

When the flop comes I would say fold. It's a nice draw, but SB looks like he has a made hand here. I don't see lags going this crazy with bluffs or top pair on this type of board.

Re: OES+FD DEEP 50NL vs Tough LAG.
 

Against a set, which I think is worst case scenario, you have around 40% equity here I believe (haven't Stoved it tho) so this is probably a push to max our equity with all that dead money already in there. (Although I guess we do have to presume that some of our Str8 outs are gone. Meh. Close probably).

And here in downtown Nitsville, we fold preflop quite often.