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Buconero 09-18-2007 04:49 AM

Playing QQ when reraised preflop
 
I've been struggling a bit recently in a few hands where I've raised with QQ preflop and then been reraised with 100 big blind effective starting stacks. No matter how I play them I find it hard to figure out whether I'm WA/WB. I'd be interested in the views of experienced players in the following scenarios. Assume villain is a 19/14 but we don't know anything else about him. I would assume from these stats that he seems like he's not a station or a maniac and probably has a reasonably good idea of what he's doing. I'm a 22/18.

Scenario 1
6 Players NLH $1/$2
SB: $200.00
BB: $200.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $20.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00

Flop: ($41) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $30.00</font>, Hero??

I don't particularly like calling the reraise pre-flop like this as I don't know where I am post-flop. Villain could be c-betting AK/AQ/88 (or worse), value betting AA/KK/JJ/TT/99. If I call, a rag falls on the turn and villain fires again I could be way ahead or way behind but frankly its anyone's guess. If I reraise his flop bet I'm effectively committing myself.

Scenario 2a
6 Players NLH $1/$2
SB: $200.00
BB: $200.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $200.00</font>, Hero ??

I would assume this is an easy laydown against a 19/14 player at $1/$2 as very few will do this with anything other than AA/KK? Against a very aggressive player (rare at $1/$2 but much more common at say $10/$20) I would call but against a solid good $1/$2 player calling is very bad?

Scenario 2b
6 Players NLH $1/$2
SB: $200.00
BB: $200.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, BB calls $40.00

Flop: ($120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero??

I have an overpair and only have slightly more than the pot left to bet but it feels like I'm being trapped.


Any thoughts on these scenarios and on how you play QQ when reraised preflop would be much appreciated.

drewvy 09-18-2007 04:53 AM

Re: Playing QQ when reraised preflop
 
1)call
2)fold
3)bet--if we're being trapped were gonna spike the Q

wdead 09-18-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Playing QQ when reraised preflop
 
Hand 1 is an easy call and reevaluate on the turn
Hand 2 is an easy fold
Hand 3 is the closest. Against some villains I am done putting in money and will try to check it down, against others I would bet insultingly small and call a shove, depends on your opponent


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