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David Sklansky 12-06-2006 06:02 AM

Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
I expect many comments and questions about that book. I'll reply here.

goofball 12-06-2006 06:16 AM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
I've never heard of it. Do you consider it worth reading?

alphatmw 12-06-2006 07:46 AM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
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I've never heard of it. Do you consider it worth reading?

[/ QUOTE ] how is this not self explanatory

WelshMackem 12-06-2006 08:01 AM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
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how is this not self explanatory

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This, or the thread itself?


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Maulik 12-06-2006 12:11 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
DS,

We have a book forum.

KCMACK15 12-06-2006 02:45 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
Mr. Sklansky, I haven't heard of the book, but I do have a question about the mathmatics. I was playing online last night in a cash game at Full Tilt. It was a micro limit. I was dealt three consecutive hands of pocket two's, and on all three consecutive hands I FLOPPED a set. I know many of the readers of this will not believe me but if you would like I do have the room and time down that this occurred. Again these were consecutive hands. I was curious about the probablity of this happening. I did not have the formula or the software to run it, but WE (office) came up with approx. 1 in 8,000,000,000,000,000.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
PS thanks for all your great books, they have helped me greatly.
Jeff Mc.

mjkidd 12-06-2006 03:10 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
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Mr. Sklansky, I haven't heard of the book, but I do have a question about the mathmatics. I was playing online last night in a cash game at Full Tilt. It was a micro limit. I was dealt three consecutive hands of pocket two's, and on all three consecutive hands I FLOPPED a set. I know many of the readers of this will not believe me but if you would like I do have the room and time down that this occurred. Again these were consecutive hands. I was curious about the probablity of this happening. I did not have the formula or the software to run it, but WE (office) came up with approx. 1 in 8,000,000,000,000,000.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
PS thanks for all your great books, they have helped me greatly.
Jeff Mc.

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A flopped set 3 times in a row would be (3/51)^3*(1/8.5)^3, or about 3 million to one.

A flopped set of the same rank three times would be (3/51)^3*(4/52)^2*(1/8.5)^3, or about 500 million to one.

A flopped set of deuces three times would be (4/52)^3*(4/52)^3*(1/8.5)^3, or about 6.6 billion to one.

You were only off about 7 orders of magnitude. That's not so much, in the grand scheme of things.

David Steele 12-06-2006 03:25 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
If you are in fact a reliable witness, then the probability is very close to certainty, although very unlikely to occur again. The probability of some other hand sequence amazing you is quite high though.

D.

WelshMackem 12-06-2006 03:43 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
That is a superb answer and reminds me of one of Richard Feynman's favourite lecture openers, something along the lines of "I saw a car with registration number MC118GS on the way in to work today, what are the chances of that"

jogsxyz 12-06-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Special Thread For Chen-Ankenman Mathematics of Poker
 
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That is a superb answer and reminds me of one of Richard Feynman's favourite lecture openers, something along the lines of "I saw a car with registration number MC118GS on the way in to work today, what are the chances of that"

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Was that your neighbor's car?


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