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darinvg 11-14-2007 11:23 AM

$225: post flop part 2
 
Villain is 33/25 after 10 hands. How bad did I do?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1455)
MP1 (t425)
MP2 (t2105)
Hero (t1395)
Button (t2750)
SB (t1370)
BB (t2520)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t100

Flop: (t325) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t325) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Pudge714 11-14-2007 11:59 AM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
I like flop and turn, I would be really tempted to shove over his turn c/r since it looks so fos and the board is so drawy.

sean457j 11-14-2007 12:02 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
This is a pretty weird thing to do by the villain (c/r turn when there has been no bet on the flop and there are two possible flush draws on the turn). Maybe villain noticed you were doing delayed c/bets to steal pots, and this is a bluff. Or possibly he's on a draw and wants to disguise it (if you check he gets a free card/if you bet, you probably haven't got a King - therefore a decent size raise will get you off the hand). For some reason the draw makes the most sense to me, although I wouldn't be sure of anything.

darinvg 11-14-2007 12:10 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
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I like flop and turn, I would be really tempted to shove over his turn c/r since it looks so fos and the board is so drawy.

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Not too FPSy for a SNG?

RexWoo 11-14-2007 12:24 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
I would fold preflop against a 30/25 in BB.

I like the flop check and turn bet and I don't think you can do anything but fold after he rr.
So maybe checking again on the turn and c/c most rivers is best.

Chipchucker5 11-14-2007 01:49 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
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I like flop and turn, I would be really tempted to shove over his turn c/r since it looks so fos and the board is so drawy.

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Not too FPSy for a SNG?

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It is, IMO.

JoeSchmo 11-14-2007 01:56 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
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I like flop and turn, I would be really tempted to shove over his turn c/r since it looks so fos and the board is so drawy.

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Not too FPSy for a SNG?

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It is, IMO.

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vers 11-14-2007 03:03 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
I like rex's line here. I am never opening this light early on, but maybe since it's a higher buyin sng where opponents are presumably more observant, you have to vary play and open lighter to get more action on other premium hands. If that's the reason for raising pre then I think it's ok. I think we just have to muck the turn.

DDBeast 11-14-2007 03:22 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
First of all, the stats really mean nothing over 10 hands. You can't rely on 10 hands of data at all unless he has VPIP 50+. I bet the flop. As played, his raise is definitely suspicious, but he could be doing this with a 5 or a 'monster' AK. I don't think this is the right time to get tricky.

Pudge714 11-14-2007 04:59 PM

Re: $225: post flop part 2
 
Preflop is standard here. There is nothing FPSY about the turn if you have the best hand a lot get it in. There are spots where people have TPTK and will have similar equity and people say shove, just because your hand doesn't fall in a specific value doesn't make it too fpsy.


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