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CasinoR7 07-15-2007 10:18 AM

King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
I have just studied King Yao's book: "Weighing the odds in Hold'em poker". Matthew Hilger's book on odds and probability looks very similar. I don't know if I should buy it after already having studied King Yao's book, because they might be very similar in content.

edit: I think I'll buy it anyway, but I still like to hear opinions comparing both books.

mchilger 07-15-2007 12:48 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
Casino, I haven't read Weighing the Odds but I have skimmed it. Weighing the Odds is a Limit book. Texas Hold'em Odds basically has three sections: one on Limit, one on NL, and one with stats and charts (most useful for NL).

If you are primarily a Limit player and have already read Weighing the Odds, my book won't add too much to what you probably already know unless you are one of those people who like to know lots of stats. The main focus of my book is to help people who struggle with pot odds and implied pot odds, and how to use those to determine when you should draw and how you should protect your hand - for both limit and NL.

Matthew

CasinoR7 07-15-2007 01:09 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
Matthew, thanks for replying. I am playing both NL and fixed limit and I am very interested in the subject of using mathematics in poker, that's probably enough reason to buy your book. I am also looking for a book that explains counting partial outs in more detail. There are a few pages on this in SSHE, but does your book go in more depth on this subject?

dirty banana2007 07-15-2007 02:32 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
Internet texas holdem by matthew and hold em on the come by rolf slotboom talk about counting partial outs, but i cant remember if it is in more detail than the information in SSHE.

Humble Pie 07-15-2007 07:30 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
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hold em on the come by rolf slotboom

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Terrible book.

Little Wing 07-15-2007 10:56 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
They are two different types of book. King Yao's book is more on basic strategy, like HEFAP or LLHE by Lee Jones.

Hilger's book is mostly about poker math, like outs,pot odds, etc. If you are looking for a HE math book, you might also try Hold Em's Odds Book by Mike Petriv.

RowdyZ 07-16-2007 02:23 AM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
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hold em on the come by rolf slotboom

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Terrible book.

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I haven't read the book but I am pretty sure the other guy, Dew Mason wrote the book and then Rolf added some comments and other things later. But Rolf is the name player so he ends up getting credited for writing the book.



RZ

mchilger 07-16-2007 09:58 AM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
My terminology is "discounted outs" which is what I call a "dout" - the same thing as partial outs. The main emphasis in the limit section is looking at how to discount outs.

MAtthew

Bad Beat Maker 07-16-2007 10:58 PM

Re: King Yao vs Matthew Hilger\'s book on odds
 
Matthew, does your book discuss equity?


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