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bighomeytim 11-12-2007 04:05 PM

($27) QQ First Hand
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t100, MP1 calls t100.

Flop: (t370) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t175</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls t175.

Turn: (t720) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t720) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t260</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t720

StregaChess 11-12-2007 04:13 PM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
Pot control
Too much preflop, bring it down a bit.
I'd check the flop too.

As played if you don't bet the turn he owns the river....

Jaqrabbit 11-12-2007 04:21 PM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
I can't give him credit for the straight here, and I don't see most unknowns checking the flop with an ace. I bet the turn for about 400. As played, call the river. I think it's a steal often enough that you have to call, given the odds.

Also, I agree with StregaChess about the pfr - 6xBB is a bit much - make it 3-4xBB. I think betting the flop is fine, considering you were checked to, but checking behind for pot control is probably also fine.

Question though: If we check the flop, and the turn comes while we're three way, what's our action if BB bets and MP calls? How about if BB checks and MP bets? Assume each bet is about half pot.

RexWoo 11-13-2007 07:27 AM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
100 pf, I check the flop.

As palyed, fold the river.

billybeartku 11-13-2007 07:31 AM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
I'm with RexWoo.

Shrooma 11-13-2007 08:24 AM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
I'm playing this the same. I don't like the option of checking behind on the flop, a c-bet will pick up the pot a lot of the time as the A is probably a scare card for any caller.

mortimo 11-13-2007 08:54 AM

Re: ($27) QQ First Hand
 
I check the flop as well. I believe that MP1 has either a weaker A, and wants to check-call it down for pot-control, or a medium pp. Same goes for BB. After checking, I would bet t250 on that relative safe turn.

As played, I check turn and probably call a small bet on a safe river. I don`t think the K helped him/her a lot, so I put him/her on a set or a weaker A.


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