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Riku 11-25-2007 07:41 AM

AQ
 
UTG is about 25/7/1 AF
UTG1 is about 20/13/2 AF

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero...

neurotiq 11-25-2007 08:03 AM

Re: AQ
 
I call down. The K, unfortunately, is all over his raising range, which makes this kind of a gross spot.

We don't need to raise to protect our hand. If the third player is behind, he's drawing very thin. So I see no need to drive him out with a raise.

It's not technically wa/wb (since there's a third player in the pot), but I take that line anyway vs. UTG+1's donk.

ThierryHenry 11-25-2007 11:02 AM

Re: AQ
 
Raise. The pot is big and you want to protect your hand.

Riku 11-25-2007 11:15 AM

Re: AQ
 
Protect from what ?

Mitke 11-25-2007 11:34 AM

Re: AQ
 
[ QUOTE ]
Protect from what ?

[/ QUOTE ]
SDs, gutshots mostly, I think, like JT, AT, AJ, T9.

However, I think I'd play this passively.

We are almost dead vs a K here, relying on back doors, but get some value if UTG1 is willing to bet this for us with a worse Q.

So, no need to pump the pot as we can very far behind. If we're ahead e.g vs another Q, villains do not have many outs.

We could protect the pot vs gutshots by raising but if we get raised we're toast and should probably peel in the small hope our BDFD gets there...

Do we have a safe fold on the turn UI if UTG1 with 20/13/2 stats 3-bets the flop and we peel?

Another Q is just as likely as is K-trips, there's two Ks and Qs uncounted for.

LateFlag 11-25-2007 12:09 PM

Re: AQ
 
It's kind of unusual to just call the flop with a third guy involved in the hand, but I just want to get this hand to showdown without spewing off a bunch of chips to a K.


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