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Chump Change 09-12-2007 09:20 AM

Sigh, what should I do with this thread?
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12049519

4_2_it 09-12-2007 09:22 AM

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I'm not a fan, but whatever Dids wants to do is fine with me.

Gildwulf 09-12-2007 09:30 AM

Re: Sigh, what should I do with this thread?
 
lock or delete

if you are not sure about inline, just ask yourself....would a boss want someone looking at chicks on a toilet half naked?

Answer is probably no.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 09:51 AM

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lock or delete

if you are not sure about inline, just ask yourself....would a boss want someone looking at chicks on a toilet half naked?

Answer is probably no.

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Ok, this brings up a question I have about the NSFW issue. I've never had a job of that nature, and my best educated guess would be a boss wouldn't want you looking at ANYthing that didn't pertain to work. It could be a sports picture, a picture of a puppy, whatev, and I can see a boss saying, "wtf are you looking at pictures of cats speaking incorrect english on my time!?!?" See what I mean?

Or if it's a lax environment, I can see how boobs and extremely racy pics would be frowned upon. However, swimsuit pics are pretty racy (especially the young kids and their bikinis) but seem to be ok...

The ladies on the toilets, especially because they didn't seem to be invasive or voyeuristic, really stumped me due to the above reasons.

Dids 09-12-2007 10:18 AM

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cc: I think that changing the links to urls is all I'd do.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Sigh, what should I do with this thread?
 
Now what about this pic in a different thread:

While hilarious, ban for the profanity? In my MSPaints I still always censored any profane language, so it's common sense ldo, but what is the exact line with profanity in a pic that mightve been an honest mistake?

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...arblecat-1.jpg

Chump Change 09-12-2007 10:21 AM

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cc: I think that changing the links to urls is all I'd do.

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Well, that's what I already did, with another nsfw warning. One step ahead of you boss!

Gildwulf 09-12-2007 10:45 AM

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While hilarious, ban for the profanity?

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delete image, slap on the wrist with mod notes (1-2 days)

if they have posted that kind of stuff before or have history of profanity filter, increase it to 3-5 days with a strong warning

Dids 09-12-2007 10:48 AM

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I wouldn't ban for profanity, but I'd delete the link and leave a note explaining why.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 11:17 AM

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For the record, does deleting the pic mean deleting it and providing a URL link, or nuking it altogether?

tuq 09-12-2007 12:16 PM

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That pic is hilarious. It makes me glad that my cats are both neutered (or spayed - whichever one it is for the male cats).

I've never honestly known what the policy is for profanity in pictures. I mean in theory it would be a violation but I've seen countless pics on this site with the f-bomb and other [censored] words in them. The most prominent - and I can't find it via a quick search or I would copy it here - is the Gary Coleman pic where he's shrugging and saying "who gives a fk"? I still see that one from time to time and didn't know it warranted a ban.

Mike Haven 09-12-2007 01:13 PM

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You're too sensible and down-to-earth to be a mod, tub.

El Diablo 09-12-2007 01:16 PM

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All,

"I wouldn't ban for profanity"

Huh? If people are banned for writing "f-u-c-k" then imo they should be banned for posting pics that include that word.

tuq 09-12-2007 01:29 PM

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All,

"I wouldn't ban for profanity"

Huh? If people are banned for writing "f-u-c-k" then imo they should be banned for posting pics that include that word.

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Of course that makes sense, it's just kind of a shame is all. Some of the best pics have words that aren't allowed here. Bummer. I guess someone could drop it into paint and alter the image to comply, but that's a hassle.

By the way El D, you are a dumbass. I don't actually believe that of course, I'm just glad it was removed from the filter and have been looking for a chance to use it. Maybe I'll go read some NVG so I can dole out dumbasses until my fingers bleed.

Dids 09-12-2007 02:08 PM

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All,

"I wouldn't ban for profanity"

Huh? If people are banned for writing "f-u-c-k" then imo they should be banned for posting pics that include that word.

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I ban for obvious censor dodges, but not for say, somebody who I belive just typed fuckign 'cause they can't type (like me!) or who I believe assumed that fuckcheese would slip through the censor. I tend to view these images like that unless I can assume some real malice on the posters part.

Gildwulf 09-12-2007 02:45 PM

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All,

"I wouldn't ban for profanity"

Huh? If people are banned for writing "f-u-c-k" then imo they should be banned for posting pics that include that word.

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I ban for obvious censor dodges, but not for say, somebody who I belive just typed fuckign 'cause they can't type (like me!) or who I believe assumed that fuckcheese would slip through the censor. I tend to view these images like that unless I can assume some real malice on the posters part.

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I agree with el d, I see very little difference between someone writing f-u-c-k and someone posting an image that says [censored] in it. Both are circumventing the profanity filter with the exact wording of a swear (not fk or [censored] but actually saying fuck).

Dids 09-12-2007 03:06 PM

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I don't disagree with him at all on that point. Just about where I start banning.

Gildwulf 09-12-2007 03:13 PM

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I thought tempbans for direct profanity filter violations is SOP.

if you tempban someone for intentionally bypassing the filter by saying fuck, not fk, you should tempban them the same amount for this, imo.

Dids 09-12-2007 03:15 PM

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I think we're on the same page gildy, as explained above.

tuq 09-12-2007 03:17 PM

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Dammit when I do I get special mod forum cussing privileges? Should I PM Ryan Beal? Look at this: [censored]! Then look at Gildwulf's posts. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

4_2_it 09-12-2007 03:19 PM

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Holy s[/i]hit, I never would have guessed that tuq was a profanity filter n00b.

iron81 09-12-2007 03:19 PM

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I thought tempbans for direct profanity filter violations is SOP.

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Personally I never ban anyone on the first offense for minor violations like this. Usually, people don't even know its against the rules. There really isn't a reason to ban someone that warn + delete can't handle, since most people are cooperative when informed of the rules.

El Diablo 09-12-2007 03:25 PM

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Dibs,

"I think we're on the same page gildy, as explained above."

Wtf are you talking about? You just said that you ban for bypassing the filter to write f-u-c-k but don't ban for pics unless you think there's "malice" or something.

tuq 09-12-2007 03:25 PM

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Lesko,

FU[/i]CK. OFF. You too iron. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mat Sklansky 09-12-2007 04:04 PM

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Even though Mason wants the profanity filter intact, I can assure you that he would rather people be warned for their first offenses than banned.

Just something to keep in mind.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 04:11 PM

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I guess someone could drop it into paint and alter the image to comply, but that's a hassle.

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I totally did that like 2 hours ago.



CHUMP CHANGE 4 ADMIN IN '08

HE GOES THAT EXTRA STEP

Chump Change 09-12-2007 04:14 PM

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Dibs,

"I think we're on the same page gildy, as explained above."

Wtf are you talking about? You just said that you ban for bypassing the filter to write f-u-c-k but don't ban for pics unless you think there's "malice" or something.

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El D,

Perhaps he trying to say that the 'malice' part means it takes effort to circumvent the filter, but with posting a pic the user might've been so caught up in the hilarity that he didn't stop and think, 'oops, there's a bad word in there.' I might be reaching here but the humor in the cat picture doesm't lie in the word [censored] so I can see it being overlooked.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 04:15 PM

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http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...a/catballs.jpg




http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r.../catballs2.jpg

4_2_it 09-12-2007 04:18 PM

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chump change for mod

tuq 09-12-2007 04:26 PM

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CC,

LOL!

You can't compare yourself to others. You're like the Tiger Woods of MS Paint. For example, I could do it but I don't know how to turn those letters into perfect dashes like that, and my crappy edit would probably take a lot longer too. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

EDIT to add: I agree with your premise about not knowing/thinking about the violation in picture profanity, and as I said upthread I really have never known the site policy on that. No matter how much sense El D makes, it doesn't change that I've seen pics with profanity in them too often to make the policy obvious (and I really doubt "picture profanity" is discussed in the T&C).

Gildwulf 09-12-2007 04:31 PM

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jesus there are a lot of cat balls in this thread.

Dids 09-12-2007 04:47 PM

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CC explained what I was trying to convey.

El Diablo 09-12-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Sigh, what should I do with this thread?
 
CC, Dibs:

I understood exactly what Dibs was saying, dumbasses.

Chump Change 09-12-2007 05:26 PM

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CC, Dibs:

I understood exactly what Dibs was saying, dumbasses.

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Lol nice.


P.S. Catballs.





entertainme 09-13-2007 11:36 AM

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FYI. This is from the OOT sticky, which I swiped and copied into the Tourney sticky a while ago.

Rules that apply to all of Two Plus Two that are strictly enforced:

-Do not circumvent the profanity filter or post images that contain censored words.


I always go with 1st offense warning, 2nd offense 1 day ban.


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