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rand 09-26-2007 02:42 PM

2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
villain is a good reg, 22/17/5.3

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $106.20
BB: $778.65
UTG: $757.40
MP: $416.40
CO: $240.40
Hero (BTN): $636.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $14.00, Hero calls $14.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $40.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $40.00

Turn: ($128) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $110.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $220.00</font>, UTG calls $110.00

River: ($568) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero &gt;?&gt;? SHOVES ?????

but the main reason im posting this is bc i think a turn shove is best

lets say he holds AK a vast majority of the time i think hes more likely to call a turn shove then a river shove with that hand

anyway, give villain a range on the turn/river and come up with a good line to get it in

Terrabon98 09-26-2007 02:46 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
really don't like the turn minraise for a bunch of reasons...depends on your style, but I would shove turn here and expect to be paid off with a wide range of hands

as played, i think it would be stupid to do anything but shove...you dont even have a PSB left...

obiedman 09-26-2007 02:49 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
don't minraise turn jesus christ

rand 09-26-2007 02:50 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
[ QUOTE ]
really don't like the turn minraise for a bunch of reasons...depends on your style, but I would shove turn here and expect to be paid off with a wide range of hands

as played, i think it would be stupid to do anything but shove...you dont even have a PSB left...

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lol yeah i agree, i dont even know why i wrote the post like that...obvi its a shove once u get there

im just wondering about the turn spot

silenced 09-26-2007 02:53 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
turn play depends on ur image - if u play draws aggro then u gotta push here. If u dont play your draws aggro i dont mind a flat call here....altho u are risking a spade hitting that will ruin your action. but if it doesnt hit you can get quite a bit of money out of him on the river

Praetor 09-26-2007 02:53 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
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don't minraise turn jesus christ

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jaywks 09-26-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
Raise turn to $300, shove river. By the way I don't think Caide's a very good regular. I find that he calls off his stack very weak.

I don't like the turn minraise.

rand 09-26-2007 02:59 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
i guess i should have included my image and flow when posting this...

but im crazy pretty often and both the turn and river could be bluffs from me but so could a turn shove

and bc a turn shove should theoretically have more FE than my line i think he should know that and call it lighter...

FionnMac 09-26-2007 03:12 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
jesus stop going on about a 'turn shove' we have more options that min-raise or shove! i'd probably make a 2.5x or 3x raise.

silenced 09-26-2007 03:14 PM

Re: 2,4 turned nuts against good reg, CAIDE
 
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jesus stop going on about a 'turn shove' we have more options that min-raise or shove! i'd probably make a 2.5x or 3x raise.

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given that hero is aggro a turn shove is much better than a 2.5 -3x raise.


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