blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

Losing player LAG has been betting out lots.

Blinds 60/120
Hero, SB (3300)
DumbfuckLag, BB (6,115)

Folds to hero who raises to 360 with Ac 10h, DumbfuckLag calls.

Flop: Ks As Kc (pot 720)

Hero checks, DumbfuckLAG bets 450, Hero pushes.

Barry

Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

Barry

If he's dumb in such a way that he'll stack off with any A then of course this is good. Otherwise c/c, c/c, valuetown on river is good against someone who will hang himself given rope.

Jarid

ps - I enjoy the blatant distain you harbor for your opponents.

Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

Jarid,

Mostly, I have blatant disdain for how I have been running in tournaments against plays that I find repulsive. It, in turn, fuels over to my opponents. It's a vicious cycle, really, and I'd rather be one of those sweet mouthed silent sharks who is all like "gg, I love you, I win, no, no, you played that hand swell." But, alas.

Anyway, I'm not sure if c/c is good here, if a spade or a straight card comes, it could scare him off, I doubt he fires again here, and considering we chop aces (+ I think he calls with A9 or A8 here, but may fold lower ones), I think pushing here was best given the situation. He showed K9 here, lol.

Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

Are you trying to get AQ/AJ to fold?

Otherwise I really hate the shove. Smooth call the flop. I like everything else.

Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style.

Barry

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fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style.

Barry

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Not helping your case. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

What calls your shove that you are ahead of? What card(s) are you afraid of on the turn? I think the answer to those questions shows why the shove is bad.

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fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style.

Barry

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Not helping your case. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

What calls your shove that you are ahead of? What card(s) are you afraid of on the turn? I think the answer to those questions shows why the shove is bad.

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A9, A8, A7 from this player may all call my shove.
A6-A2 may fold, but I don't mind that because we're chopping this [censored] a good chunk of the time anyway.

A spade on the turn kills my action but allows him to bluff me.

Not afraid of much else.

I don't know, I need to brush up on the math, obviously my logic is murky.

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It, in turn, fuels over to my opponents. It's a vicious cycle, really, and I'd rather be one of those sweet mouthed silent sharks who is all like "gg, I love you, I win, no, no, you played that hand swell." But, alas.


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standard obv.

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(+ I think he calls with A9 or A8 here, but may fold lower ones), I think pushing here was best given the situation.

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Thats fair, I just believe there to be a ton of value in inducing bluffs and letting people hang themselves in bvb battles. Espc agg opponents. In this instance though you are probably right.

Jarid

Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
 

dunno...I'm not a psycho lag but I lead with the same if I have a K here too...pushing over the top seems a bit much and dicey...just put in a nice size raise and see how it plays out?

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pretty wild imo