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pleyya 06-23-2007 07:11 AM

KK turn fold 200 NL
 
BB was 21/18/4, UTG fishie, and button TAG.

I didnt see anything i beat on turn if hes decent, unless he played QJ of hearts hard on the turn. I didnt think he would repop pre oop with 99 or 1010

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $316.00
BB: $207.65
UTG: $451.20
Hero (MP): $212.00
CO: $198.62
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $10.00, SB folds, BB calls $8.00, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($41) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $35.00</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $35.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($111) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $88.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $199.00

HaiaN 06-23-2007 07:16 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
I like it. If this was heads up I would try to get it in though.

mertzo 06-23-2007 07:18 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
I like it too =) you are spot on

pureklas 06-23-2007 07:26 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
The only thing that makes this hand suspicious is that there are so many draws. After you call the flop he has to put you on an overpair. His turn bet is either a nice semi-bluff, maybe even a combo draw, in which case he still has a ton of outs. Alternatively, he has at least two pair T9, posssibly a set fo him to bet into a family pot like that. I like your line, nh.

drewvy 06-23-2007 07:38 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
pretty nice read by either you or him...does AA change things??

Rainclouds 06-23-2007 07:54 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
I think QQ and JJ are also in his range.
Also, he does not have to put you on an overpair; he can put you very well on 2 broadway hearts and bet his TPTK.

Board: 4h Th 9c 2c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.468% 57.47% 00.00% 708 0.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 42.532% 42.53% 00.00% 524 0.00 { QQ-99, 44, ATs, QhJh, T9s, 8h7h }

Without the draws your equity is the same fwiw, so whether you include those in the range or not doesn't matter.

I cannot fold here; I shove the turn.

strkvam 06-23-2007 09:42 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
One option is to raise on the flop to see how good your kings are right now, and then fold to a push. Or am I just way out of line now?

effinA 06-23-2007 10:16 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
bb is pretty aggro pf, so i think jj/qq are def in his 3bet squeeze range....and thats prolly the same w/ tt/99.....well, maybe not 99.....

y not raise flop?....turn is meh.....so many draws...but i think u made the right decision...(i think).

mvdgaag 06-23-2007 10:29 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
I think it's a good fold... You only beat lower PP's or possibly a draw. I'd raise the flop if he's agressive...

EddieRooo 06-23-2007 10:30 AM

Re: KK turn fold 200 NL
 
Raise flop or push turn.


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