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crunchi 11-30-2007 06:22 PM

100nl: river decision with two pair
 
Villain is unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($200.60)
BB ($39.40)
UTG ($140.70)
Hero ($99.50)
CO ($66.45)
Button ($63.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $17.50</font>, Hero calls $17.50.

River: ($58) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $45</font>, Hero ?????????

hotbacon 11-30-2007 06:46 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
RAISE. THE. FLOP.

wiseman1016 11-30-2007 06:53 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
Raise flop. Get it in.
easy call imo as your hand is underrepresented

crunchi 11-30-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
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RAISE. THE. FLOP.

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why? best case scenario he calls/shoves with Td9d

edit: actually best case scenario villain has KQ but thats the only hand i want to see.

mendacity 11-30-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
crunchi, add AT, AJ, KQ, KJ and a flop or turn raise are imperative.

ghostbeef 11-30-2007 07:37 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
So what happens when OP raises flop to 21? You think villian is folding more than pushing? (honest question) Forced to push turn obviously if villian calls flop reraise. Hard spot if villian 3bets flop.

With no reads, villian looks unusually aggressive for a range you're beating. KQ,JJ,Axo add a diamond draw if they're bad/optimistic?

crunchi 11-30-2007 08:47 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
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crunchi, add AT, AJ, KQ, KJ and a flop or turn raise are imperative.

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You think he donks and calls a raise with AT, AJ, KJ? The reason i didnt raise was because i thought he would fold these.

JFsports 11-30-2007 09:11 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
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crunchi, add AT, AJ, KQ, KJ and a flop or turn raise are imperative.

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You think he donks and calls a raise with AT, AJ, KJ? The reason i didnt raise was because i thought he would fold these.

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the donks I play with would do this as standard

crunchi 11-30-2007 09:36 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
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crunchi, add AT, AJ, KQ, KJ and a flop or turn raise are imperative.

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You think he donks and calls a raise with AT, AJ, KJ? The reason i didnt raise was because i thought he would fold these.

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the donks I play with would do this as standard

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Seems like i give villains to much credit [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Benzooor 11-30-2007 09:42 PM

Re: 100nl: river decision with two pair
 
you let him steal your manhood in this hand.

you raised preflop saying "look I'm bigger and stronger who dare challenge me!?"

He accepted your challenge and grabbed you by the nuts on the flop; at which point you seem content to just lay there and hope he lets go!

A real man would use your fist and [censored] break his skull got dammit.

Solution: raise flop and stop acting like a passive girly man.

(as played call obv)


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