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Unknown Soldier 09-26-2007 07:43 PM

TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
pfr is 26/20 ish, cold caller is 44/17/0.7 over 75 hands, i havent seen him do much. I have 2 good players saying different things, so thought id make a poll.




Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $243.70
BB: $389.40
UTG: $402.00
MP: $409.40
CO: $481.60
US (BTN): $690.08

Preflop: US is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">US raises to $48.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $44.00, MP folds

Flop: ($114) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">US bets $77.00</font>, BB calls $77.00

Turn: ($268) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, US checks

River: ($268) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $264.40</font>, US??

d2themfi 09-26-2007 07:54 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
fold

aditya 09-26-2007 08:02 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
call. he's 44/17. Enough said I think. But, he could easily be cold calling A10 here or random crap like that. If this was MP, its a fold.

d2themfi 09-26-2007 08:07 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
I think the reason to fold is becasue he is 44/17/0.7, in my experience this guy has AA or KK a lot when he shoves the river.

But I can also see an argument for calling casue liek you said occasionally they show up with middle pair or JJ or something

aditya 09-26-2007 08:08 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
Well, hmm...He has .7 AF so there could be an argument for a fold but I call and make a note if he has AA or KK really.

Nielsio 09-26-2007 08:09 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
Meh, call. Don't really see many hands he can have that beat you.

d2themfi 09-26-2007 08:12 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
yeah i think it is close either way, and calling for info, may be the best move if you play this guy a lot or w/e.

I think it is fairly neutral EV to call

d2themfi 09-26-2007 08:14 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
Also I would check this flop pretty often i think unless I had seen him CC 3bets with a wide range.

Thers some players that play 44/17 that hardly ever CC 3bets and then there thopse guys that CC 3bets a lot alot. So i would just tryto classify him in one of those twop groups and act accordingly on the flop

Colombo 09-26-2007 08:18 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
if you check this turn, then u call riv shove every time. thats how it works

Vinny80 09-26-2007 08:19 PM

Re: TPTK in RR pot against a cold call.
 
44/17 --&gt; call
0.7 --&gt; fold

I think the second point is more important, I have a very hard time seeing what he pushes on river apart from TT/QQ/KK/AA all very possible. We get bad odds and line looks very strong...


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