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phatjeffrey 11-30-2007 06:08 PM

**** December LC Thread ****
 
Last month of 07... Holidays coming up... sunday should be different, a whole day without twoplustwo seems weird..

daveT 11-30-2007 06:15 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Well, people DO get their Social Security checks today.

ChicagoRy 11-30-2007 06:19 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
You Euros have an unfair advantage in being able to start this thread like 6 hours earlier than us.

How Dboy got it last month is beyond me...

chrismystero 11-30-2007 06:40 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
You Euros have an unfair advantage in being able to start this thread like 6 hours earlier than us.

How Dboy got it last month is beyond me...

[/ QUOTE ]
I got November...

Somekid 11-30-2007 07:00 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
I hate poker so much. So I'm starting to tilt, this guy is running over me, raising big PF with anything, and because I have absolutely nothing, I gotta keep folding. He's been c/r me on flops and generally playing aggressively, so I decide to try to play a little tricky.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (2 handed)

Hero (t1365)
Button (t1635)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t200</font>, Hero calls t150.

Obviously I should 3-bet here, but I figured he was raising w/ nothing and that he would just insta-fold. I also figured he would be any flop, so calling would be better. Also, when I start to go crazy from running horribly, I start to make stupid plays (mainly out of going insane from repeatedly having my opponents always fold and I hit a flop or check-raise or shove when I miss).


Flop: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

alright so this is an okay flop, I'll just check and when he c-bets, I'll c/r and I'll pick up a decent pot.

Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t400) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

WTF? He checked behind? Alright, he's gonna fold to any bet, so why don't I play tricky. I'll bet small and he'll think I'm stabbing at the pot and he'll raise me big and continue crapping on me like he's been doing for the past 15 hands.

<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t50</font>, Button calls t50.

He called?! Now I concoct a brilliant plan...

River: (t500) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

I'll c/r him!

Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>

Perfection. I've finally made this LAG pay.

<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1200</font>

F%&amp;$ F*$% F!@$ I know I'm beat. I'm certain I'm beat, but I just can't do it. It's amazing how badly I managed to play this hand on every street. This is why I'll never make it past the 11s.

Hero calls t615 (All-In).

Villain turns over Ac9c.

Final Pot: t2730

phatjeffrey 11-30-2007 07:01 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
I live in the middle east lol, so yeah a similar timezone, and ive always wanted to start one of these..

ChicagoRy 11-30-2007 07:05 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Somekid, you have to bet a ton more on the turn. Flat calling OOP with AA is fine, but you can't do that and slowplay is postflop without super super reads and the ability to lay the hand down when you're beat.

I'd lead for at least 300 on the turn. The only decent hand he can have is probably a set imo (very small chance), otherwise I'd be surprised if he was as strong as 2nd pair.

Somekid 11-30-2007 07:14 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Yeah, I realized I played this like a complete idiot. It's weird that this is how I play when I'm tilting. Anyways, I'm hoping that by posting this hand, the public shaming effect will keep me from being this much of an idiot in the future.

hra146 11-30-2007 08:45 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
hai guys, wanted to be in on the first page.

cu

daveT 11-30-2007 08:48 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
[ QUOTE ]
I hate poker so much.

[/ QUOTE ]

At least this month is starting off correctly.

cwar 11-30-2007 08:48 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
[ QUOTE ]
hai guys, wanted to be in on the first page.

cu

[/ QUOTE ]

whyzze 11-30-2007 09:01 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
me = HU noob. You guys do monthly results/goals threads and whatnot? or can that junk just go in here.

Wu36 12-01-2007 12:12 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
If I play an inhuman number of hands in the 1st half of this month I might get to play some hu cash before christmas. But I like this forum more than ssnl anyway, so doubt that changes anything.

oh and no doomswitch pls

shipurstack 12-01-2007 01:57 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
$1+ a hand

Spechel EDD 12-01-2007 03:53 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
okay ill put this in this thread too since the previous LC thread is supposed to get locked soon

[ QUOTE ]
what kind of swings do you guys normally experience in say 1k hands? 5k hands? 10k hands?

i know its a small sample size but just help me out here.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is all hu cash btw

dboy23 12-01-2007 06:07 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
happy holiday grinding y'all

mb6tour 12-01-2007 11:22 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
y00000000

daveT 12-01-2007 04:05 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
I just filtered my over all cash play on FT, after about 40k hands, I am losing 6bbs/100.


Edit to add this question:

Does anyone in the world play that bad? I thought that would be unsustainable.

Nudge 12-01-2007 06:17 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
This is why you should play on Ongame.. This guy is a big loser on sharkscope, and raised the 6 first hand to 140, 210, 90 and so on preflop. This is my first real hand, and i decided to push because I thought he would call with a pretty big range..
which he did...

Hand T4-55064429-8, Started at 12/01/2007 5:06 PM (EST)
Table 'Savannakhet': $20 + $2 No Limit HE (TournamentChips)
Seat 4: koltsu (1 690 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 9: Powernudge (1 310 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
koltsu : Post Blind (10)
Powernudge : Post Blind (20)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
Dealt to koltsu: 8h 5h
Dealt to Powernudge: 10c10h
koltsu : Bet (80)
Powernudge : Raise (1 290)
Powernudge : All In (1 310)
koltsu : Call (1 220)
*** Flop *** : Kh 2c Ad
*** Turn *** : [ Kh 2c Ad ] 2h
*** River *** : [ Kh 2c Ad 2h ] Jh

That's what I call a HEROCALL!

1o BoY 12-01-2007 06:55 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Do most of you here play HUsng's or cash?

tmcdmck 12-01-2007 07:30 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
there are more sitngo posts, but i couldnt say if that means more people here play them: their structure invites alot more bluffs and hero calls so they are more fun to post about. also, all high stakes HU cash gets posted in high stakes rather than here (even though high stakes manages to produce some of the worst replies considering the massive ability of the players).

People_Mover 12-01-2007 10:10 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Value bluff???? LOLSKATES

WHHHHHHHHHAT? Valuetown USA with King high.
Full Tilt Poker Game #4361537691: Table Arid (heads up) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:53:27 ET - 2007/12/01
Seat 1: Shipitoverhere ($911.25)
Seat 2: agilitybob ($475.75)
Shipitoverhere posts the small blind of $2
agilitybob posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shipitoverhere [Kh 3c]
Shipitoverhere raises to $12
agilitybob calls $8
*** FLOP *** [7h 9s 7s]
agilitybob checks
Shipitoverhere checks
*** TURN *** [7h 9s 7s] [2s]
agilitybob checks
Shipitoverhere bets $18
agilitybob calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7h 9s 7s 2s] [6s]
agilitybob checks
Shipitoverhere bets $40
agilitybob calls $40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Shipitoverhere shows [Kh 3c] a pair of Sevens
agilitybob mucks
Shipitoverhere wins the pot ($139.50) with a pair of Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $140 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7h 9s 7s 2s 6s]
Seat 1: Shipitoverhere (small blind) showed [Kh 3c] and won ($139.50) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: agilitybob (big blind) mucked [Jd 8h] - a pair of Sevens

TNixon 12-01-2007 11:57 PM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
Why do I bother trying to move up to $50s and $100s? I've played about 80 $30s in the past few days, and here are my stats for the past month (a little light for November because there are almost 2 weeks worth where I didn't play at all online):

2 player $30: 62.04% (67/108) ROI: 18.17% Total profit: $618.00
2 player $50: 55.41% (123/222) ROI: 5.53% Total profit: $645.00
2 player $80: 0.00% (/1) ROI: -100.00% Total profit: $-84.00
2 player $100: 30.00% (3/10) ROI: -42.86% Total profit: $-450.00

All games: 56.60% (193/341) ROI: 4.50 Profit: 729

I made just as much money in half as many games playing $30s. And obviously I'm not improving by leaps and bounds, because after 6k+ games total, I can still only pull 5% ROI at $50s over a decent sample.

Sad.

Guess it's time to try to pony up for another coaching session, even though my bankroll is a little short for it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

mb6tour 12-02-2007 12:04 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
lol @ k-high v-bet

line check please:

reads: Villain is chronic donkbettor when I limp OTB. Passive PF OOP, folds to c-bets very often.

Titan Poker 10.00/20.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB <font color="#C00000">BB ($1410.00)</font>
SB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($1590.00)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 50.00, BB calls 40.00.

Flop (120.00) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB bets 20.00, Hero calls 20.00.

Turn (160.00) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB bets 80.00, Hero calls 80.00.

River (320.00) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB bets 300.00, Hero calls 300.00

Hero shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB shows 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB wins 920.00 with A fullhouse, Seven's and Eight's

tmcdmck 12-02-2007 12:47 AM

Re: **** December LC Thread ****
 
raise flop, fold turn imo.


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