A2 shoving
 

A2 suited too weak for shove here?


PokerStars Game #13377314618: Tournament #67865711, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/11/21 - 11:44:21 (ET)
Table '67865711 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jnocam (3475 in chips)
Seat 4: blumenkind53 (2725 in chips)
Seat 6: vikmakey (3275 in chips)
Seat 7: dickkemp (1170 in chips)
Seat 8: ms-makler (740 in chips)
Seat 9: tinus85 (2115 in chips)
tinus85: posts small blind 75
jnocam: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dickkemp [2d Ad]
blumenkind53: folds
vikmakey: folds
dickkemp: raises 1020 to 1170 and is all-in
ms-makler: folds
tinus85: folds
jnocam: calls 1020

Re: A2 shoving
 

Don't like it. Get SNGWiz and calculate EV.

Also, please convert your hands (read FAQ).

Re: A2 shoving
 

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Don't like it. Get SNGWiz and calculate EV.



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How can this NOT be a standard shove with hero sitting on 7BB and it is folded to him????

Re: A2 shoving
 

Even if BTN calls 10%, SB 15% and BB 20% it is EqP=EqF. If BB only calls 15% pushing is only .07 better (i.e. not worth it).

www.sngwiz.com

Re: A2 shoving
 

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Don't like it. Get SNGWiz and calculate EV.

Also, please convert your hands (read FAQ).

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i looked in FAQ and couldnt find the converter. do you have a link? and thanks again.

Re: A2 shoving
 

are you kidding?
you're risking the tournament to win 225t and 4 players behind you?
i think you have about 22.5% against 4 players, 57% against one random and 30% against a resonable call (JJ+,ATs+,AQo+).
ok, lets say you opponents are resonable players and will call with (KK+,AKs+,AKo+...5%). because you have 4 opponents the chance of beeing called is about 20%.

EV=0.80*225t+0.20*[0.30*1170t-0.70*1170t]=+86t


now lets say you opponents arent that tight and call you with a higher handrange (66+,A9s+,KQs,ATo+,KQo...10%), what gives you a higher chance of winning by beeing an 35:65 underdog, but increases the chance of beeing called to about 40% and i would say for getting two callers also, but dont count this possibility now.

EV=0.60*225t+0.40*[0.35*1170-0.65*1170]=-5t


however with a stack about 8BB its a push-or-fold decision.
if you fold you have 2 more hands before you're the bb and - as long as the blinds don't increase - you have +5 hands with 6.5BB (that means you have 7 hands with a nice-double-up-stack; and you have 10% for 66+,A8s+,A8o+. that means you'll hit one of this hands in 66% until you are the next bb. 66+, A8x+ has an about 20-25% higher chance against the above hands to win on a showdown compared to A2s).

i would wait here for some better hands, because A2s is a very vulnerable hand.
if you had less then 6BB it wouldnt be a question of pushing here.

Re: A2 shoving
 

@converter:
http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

this one is ok.